Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel - General › Recommend Build Settings
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Recommend Build Settings

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Hello Overclock.net

I hope this is in the right place. I have been struggling to build my first computer for the last... few months actually. I started researching in October, got all the initial parts by December, and have had nothing but troubles since

Initially, it turned on and booted great. I installed windows and all the drivers as well as initial programs (like AVG, VLC, etc.). I also installed Fallout NV. Then I began tweaking some Bios settings, nothing major, things like Ram Voltage Timings (I put them to the manufacturer spec) and using the built in OC tweakers for both the ATI graphics card and the Motherboards OC tweaker for the CPU... then it hit the fan.

The GPU started acting funny, crashing then recovering. After a week of that, it started artifacting until it finally died all together and would not boot past POST (VGA Bios error). I fried 3 different graphics cards (2 Sapphire Radeon HD 5970s and one Radeon x300) trying to get it working. At this point, I basically RMA'd everything and tried anything I could think of and read about. (Factory default settings were first on the list).

To add to my woes, the graphics card I RMA'd (Radeon HD 5970) became discontinued during the RMA process so now I'm using a less than favorable (yet still well ranked) GPU. So by now, I have either brand new hardware or "certified" working correctly hardware.

Yesterday, the rig was finally put together. Working perfectly, updated perfectly, installed software perfectly. Today, I started tweaking. Again, using the built in OC features. And like clockwork, the GPU crashed and recovered.
The settings I changed this time:
-Set first 4 ram voltage timings to manufacturer specs (the auto detect was 7-7-7-20, the manufacturer specs are 7-8-8-24). I left the bus voltage auto.
-Set the CPU from the standard 3.03GHz to 3.70GHz using the built in CPU Level Up that came with the Rampage 3 Extreme motherboard.
-Increased the EVGA NVIDIA GTS 250 GPU core and shader clock using the EVGA precision OC tool.

Here are the Hardware Specs:
CPU: Core i7-950
MB: Asus ROG Rampage 3 Extreme
GPU: EVGA NVidia GeForce GTS 250 (my original GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 5970)
RAM: 6GB OCZ HPT DDR3 1600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227640)
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gbps
OPTICAL: LG SuperMulti DVD/CD
PSU: Antec CP-1000
CASE: Antec Twelve Hundred
OS: Windows 7 Pro x64

Heres my question to you: what settings should I have to get the most out of this build... and why is my graphics card crashing... again?

I have CPUZ and Furmark installed, if you need specs let me know.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-950 @ 3.07GHz Asus ROG Rampage 3 Extreme EVGA NVidia GeForce GTS 250 6GB OCZ HPT DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gbps LG SuperMulti Windows 7 Pro x64 Asus 19" VE198T 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Antec CP-1000 Antec Athena Power Twelve Hundred Microsoft Sidewinder X8 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-950 @ 3.07GHz Asus ROG Rampage 3 Extreme EVGA NVidia GeForce GTS 250 6GB OCZ HPT DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gbps LG SuperMulti Windows 7 Pro x64 Asus 19" VE198T 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Antec CP-1000 Antec Athena Power Twelve Hundred Microsoft Sidewinder X8 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 6
Man, where do I begin? Please note that what I'm writing here is my opinion, other's may differ, but I have some experience with OCing. So: 1) Don't use auto overclock, ever. You're not the first to get your cards fried by these utilities. 2) Don't use Furmark for the same reason. 3) Don't use Linpack tests for the CPU for the same reason.

Now the 5970 is already a very hot card, when you OC such a monster you should very careful with the temperature of the card. Usually OCing tools take care of that for you, but sometimes either of these can happen: it reads temps wrong, it is incompatible with something and mixes up temps, can't see them rising, it just dials wrong settings, etc.

About OCing the processor, you should spend a few hours and read an overclocking guide. The i7 is a breeze to OC, usually just changing the bclck is enough. Soemtimes you must dial back the memory base speed so that the OCed speed matches the factory specs, all this has been written tenths of times. Test with a tool like OCCT for stability, a 30mn test is ok for 99.9% of users. Use a temp monitoring tool, watch for the temps to keep below 65°C, if they go over 65°C you went too far.

The graphics card is even easier: you have 3 clocks. Keep 2 of them fixed and OC one clock at a time. When the card becomes unstable (white spots, jaggies, or simply crashes) just go to the next clock. Always monitor temps , if they're over 80°C you've gone too far. Test with 3DMark 2006, that's a realistic load. Furmark is much too tough, you'll never experience this kind of stress in any game.

OCing can be fun and rewarding but also quite costly if done wrong. Hope this helps, opinions are welcome.
Centurion
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 940 @3.3GHz 1.25V Gigabyte 790X-DS4 XFX 5850 8GB OCZ DDR2-800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair Force 3 TRUE Win 7 Pro x64 ACER 23" TN  
PowerCase
400W Silverstone Strider Antec P182 
  hide details  
Reply
Centurion
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 940 @3.3GHz 1.25V Gigabyte 790X-DS4 XFX 5850 8GB OCZ DDR2-800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair Force 3 TRUE Win 7 Pro x64 ACER 23" TN  
PowerCase
400W Silverstone Strider Antec P182 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 6
^^ Good info..

To add to this, the I7 is not really a breeze to OC as you put it, once you know what you're doing, yes it's pretty easy, but you really need to learn HOW to overclock it, because it takes much more than just changing the BCLK.

With the 950 the 21 or 23 multipliers are recommended, and you have to tweak for YOUR chip to find which multiplier works best. Not to mention the voltage that you have to tweak as well, and quite a few other settings as well.

I suggest that you read a few overclocking guides and learn what you're doing, and stop using auto utilities. To OC the I7 it all has to be done in the BIOS for best results, and yes, you have to know what you're doing because it requires a lot of tweaking for best and stable results.
2010rig
(14 items)
 
Galaxy S3
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5660 @ 4.5  ASUS P6X58D-E 980TI? 12GB OCZ Platinum - 7-7-7-21 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1 80GB SSD x25m - 3TB F3 + F4 NH-D14 Windows 7 Ultimate LG 47LH55 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Natural Wireless Keyboard Corsair 750HX CM 690 II Advanced MX 518 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Snapdragon S4 Dual core 1500mhz Adreno 225 Samsung 2GB 16GB Onboard Flash 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Android 4.4.2 - CM11 4.8" AMOLED 1280x720 2100 mAh battery Otterbox Defender 
  hide details  
Reply
2010rig
(14 items)
 
Galaxy S3
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5660 @ 4.5  ASUS P6X58D-E 980TI? 12GB OCZ Platinum - 7-7-7-21 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1 80GB SSD x25m - 3TB F3 + F4 NH-D14 Windows 7 Ultimate LG 47LH55 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Natural Wireless Keyboard Corsair 750HX CM 690 II Advanced MX 518 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Snapdragon S4 Dual core 1500mhz Adreno 225 Samsung 2GB 16GB Onboard Flash 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Android 4.4.2 - CM11 4.8" AMOLED 1280x720 2100 mAh battery Otterbox Defender 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 
I give credit to you both for not blowing me out of the water for being such a noob. I have been reading a ton of guides recently and I really did know nothing. Thank you both for the advise and tips. I'm starting first with the GPU following this thread:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=607625&mpage=1

Following that, Ill give the CPU a try following this thread:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...920-930-a.html

If either of you know any better guides, please let me know.

Thanks again! (+1 rep for you both)
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-950 @ 3.07GHz Asus ROG Rampage 3 Extreme EVGA NVidia GeForce GTS 250 6GB OCZ HPT DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gbps LG SuperMulti Windows 7 Pro x64 Asus 19" VE198T 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Antec CP-1000 Antec Athena Power Twelve Hundred Microsoft Sidewinder X8 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-950 @ 3.07GHz Asus ROG Rampage 3 Extreme EVGA NVidia GeForce GTS 250 6GB OCZ HPT DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gbps LG SuperMulti Windows 7 Pro x64 Asus 19" VE198T 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Antec CP-1000 Antec Athena Power Twelve Hundred Microsoft Sidewinder X8 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 6
...well the guides are good, but as I said I wouldn't test with Furmark for GPU stability. For example in newer graphics cards (5xx from Nvidia and 6xxx from AMD) the GPUs are downclocked in Furmark to avoid burning them out. Older GPUs don't have this feature, so they can get toasted while using this soft. I'm not saying it's a bad stability tester, it's probably the best there is, but there is no need to stabilize the card for such extreme conditions.
Centurion
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 940 @3.3GHz 1.25V Gigabyte 790X-DS4 XFX 5850 8GB OCZ DDR2-800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair Force 3 TRUE Win 7 Pro x64 ACER 23" TN  
PowerCase
400W Silverstone Strider Antec P182 
  hide details  
Reply
Centurion
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 940 @3.3GHz 1.25V Gigabyte 790X-DS4 XFX 5850 8GB OCZ DDR2-800 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair Force 3 TRUE Win 7 Pro x64 ACER 23" TN  
PowerCase
400W Silverstone Strider Antec P182 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 6
I agree, honestly, I test my GPU by running Unigine Heaven benchmark, everytime my OC was unstable it simply wouldn't run.

Also, fire up Crysis benchmark or play a game for an hour, which is just as good to know if you're stable.

I'm sure there's a thread that has Asus Rampage overclock settings here somewhere, just like this thread for my board:
http://www.overclock.net/8378283-post2.html

Just type: Rampage 3 Extreme overclock settings in Google, I'm sure you're bound to find such a thread.
2010rig
(14 items)
 
Galaxy S3
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5660 @ 4.5  ASUS P6X58D-E 980TI? 12GB OCZ Platinum - 7-7-7-21 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1 80GB SSD x25m - 3TB F3 + F4 NH-D14 Windows 7 Ultimate LG 47LH55 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Natural Wireless Keyboard Corsair 750HX CM 690 II Advanced MX 518 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Snapdragon S4 Dual core 1500mhz Adreno 225 Samsung 2GB 16GB Onboard Flash 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Android 4.4.2 - CM11 4.8" AMOLED 1280x720 2100 mAh battery Otterbox Defender 
  hide details  
Reply
2010rig
(14 items)
 
Galaxy S3
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5660 @ 4.5  ASUS P6X58D-E 980TI? 12GB OCZ Platinum - 7-7-7-21 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
1 80GB SSD x25m - 3TB F3 + F4 NH-D14 Windows 7 Ultimate LG 47LH55 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Natural Wireless Keyboard Corsair 750HX CM 690 II Advanced MX 518 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Snapdragon S4 Dual core 1500mhz Adreno 225 Samsung 2GB 16GB Onboard Flash 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Android 4.4.2 - CM11 4.8" AMOLED 1280x720 2100 mAh battery Otterbox Defender 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Intel - General
Overclock.net › Forums › Intel › Intel - General › Recommend Build Settings