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Hi everyone I am new here and been looking around and I wanted to try watercooling but I am confused about the fittings and connectors for it as well as which tubing to use for the connectors/barbs.

I am willing to spend around $300 on it and want something very good and would like some help if some people would be willing to =) I have an i7 930 and its overclocked to 4.2 ghz using the noctua NH-D14 and would like better if its possible on water.

I am looking at a reservoir that is bay mounted and I want a pump that is quiet if possible. I also would like to get a valve or something in the tube to drain the water easy if I want to change something in the future as I have seen other do but I am lost on what to actually get. I'm mostly confused with which barbs/connectors to get for the parts below and which tubing to get. I already have some distilled water and should I use any additives if I dont want any colors for protection ?

Here is what I have so far so give me your opinion on if this is good or not.

Reservoir
http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Acrylic...C-pr-4123.html

WaterBlock
http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Rasa-CP...l-pr-4653.html

Pump
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP...p-pr-3510.html

Radiator
http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-RX360-T...r-pr-4384.html

PT Nuke
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/peptpcobi1.html

Tubing
http://www.jab-tech.com/PrimoFlex-Pr...D-pr-4425.html

Tube Clamps
http://www.jab-tech.com/Plastic-Tubi...k-pr-3522.html

Barbs
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-hig...P-pr-3659.html

Thanks in advance
Edited by Eebobb - 2/2/11 at 12:01pm
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post #2 of 25
If you are going to be using a bay res anyway, why not go for a res that is able to mount a pump onto it for a few reasons. First because it looks cleaner and you wont have as many tubes going around your case. Also, it doubles as a pump top which will improve your pump performance.

I recommend a Swiftech MCP355 with a bay res.
MCP355
Possible res

For a CPU only loop your current rad will work fine. You could also go with a XSPC 360mm rad, a Thermochill, or a swiftech. Just be sure to match the right fans to the rad. Some rads perform better with bigger or smaller fans.

Your CPU block will work fine, you could also go with a EK Supreme HF, XSPC Rasa, or Heatkiller.

My $.02
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post #3 of 25
If you have distilled water you will need pt-nuke, killcoil or both.

If he doesn't want to do what lithgroth007 said he does not need a dual 5.25" bay res.
This res would be fine.
http://www.svc.com/br525cl.html

If you want to do what was said above you could go with that. I was just giving a suggestion.

I have a EK Supreme HF Full Copper and I love it. It works greaat.

Barbs can leak. Compression fittings if put on correctly won't leak. They are also prettier.

You could get a HWLabs Black Ice GTX360 or SR-1 360 rad. Beware they are much thicker than the GT Stealth rads. The thickness can be found at the HWLabs website.
http://www.hwlabs.com/

If you don't want to have a drain/fillport thing you can do something like a double valve on the back of the res.
I have started a thread asking how to drain. You can read that.
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...g-wc-loop.html
These ways may not be the easiest.
I would think something like a Danger Den Drain/Fillport would be easiest.
http://www.svc.com/acc-505.html
Those come in more colors.
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if your going to use a dual bay res and you want to use a 655 pump then this is the res I would go with

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...?tl=g30c97s168

this way your pump and res are together not taking up as much room, needing less tubing and fittings and just making a the install cleaner looking

I have it and its really nice

I think you might check sidewindercomputers.com they might have a little better price
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post #5 of 25
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Ok I would like to know which pump has better performance and which one is more quiet the MCP-655B or the MCP-355 ? Also is there any advantage or disadvantage to using a res/pump combo and which outweighs the other ?

I switched the rad so far and edited my link above and just waiting to see which pump and res is the best to go with for a noob watercooler. After that is picked I don't know which barbs/connectors to pick and which tubing to get for it. Which coolant should I use or if I should use distilled water with additives ?

Thanks for the advice =)
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If you don't have your heart set on FrozenCPU check out Performance-PC and see if you cant save $50 or more. @ FrozenCPU no barbs are included, P-PC they are, if you want compression fittings then FrozenCPU might be the way to go.

Also have you checked out the XSPC 750 duel res/pump combo? I run it and it is quite, cant tell it is running. Would also save compared to buying a pump and res separate. It is also way enough pump for what you are doing.

For coolant run a shot of PT-Nuke with distilled water, NO UV or other colored coolant is recommended
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Honestly I would just stick with the XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir Pump. Honestly for your loop (even if you expanded to include the GPUs) you don't need anything more than that. It's pretty quiet, performs exactly the same as an 655-B and costs significantly less (than a 655-B + XSPC Laing D5 Bay Res).

To answer your question though, the 655-B is significantly weaker (almost 1/2th the power) of the 355. However, the 655-B is a decent amount quieter.

Finally, if you really only care about silence I would get an MCP350 (more than enough for your loop) and the XSPC Acrylic Reservoir top. It wouldn't be mounted in your drive bays (which is a good thing, drive bay pumps are highly prone to vibration) and it would be silent.
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ok I changed the links things wonder if this looks good.

Sorry for being so lost in this I just want to learn about this and don't want to upgrade in the future if I want to add things like dual GPU, chipset and ram to the loop and want to be prepared.

Once I started overclocking and messing with this stuff I think I'm addicted =)
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Most of those links are broken, but the pump looks good.
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Most of those links are broken, but the pump looks good.
Ok I fixed them and after I get the RES picked I guess I need to know which barbs/connectors to get as well as tubing.
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