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Exactly, its absolutely ridiculous that people are still programming games and applications that only take advantage of 2 threads, even if its a sloppy implementation its still free performance.
85% of games are CONSOLE PORTS. what do you expect from lazy devs?
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16 cores is G34
Oh, and technically the 8 core CPU is an 8 core CPU
Which makes the 16 core CPU a 16 core CPU
i stand corrected!
    
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Exactly, its absolutely ridiculous that people are still programming games and applications that only take advantage of 2 threads, even if its a sloppy implementation its still free performance.
Software has always been slower to take advantage of new CPU architectures right from the beginning. I'm no expert but it seems to me that if software engineers are presumably just as intelligent as hardware engineers then software development just doesn't get funded as well. Or then again, maybe software development is just much more difficult for some reason.
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After the most recent Intel fubar, I'm going to be jumping on bulldozer as soon as I can, especially if bulldozer somehow comes out before Intel fully fixes the sandybridge chipset issue.
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After the most recent Intel fubar, I'm going to be jumping on bulldozer as soon as I can, especially if bulldozer somehow comes out before Intel fully fixes the sandybridge chipset issue.
Well Intel said it didn't expect to be back up to speed on shipments until April timeline which is coincidentally about when Bulldozer comes out. Interesting days my friends.
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The guy telling you that more cores don't matter is the same guy peddling 6-core parts today with 8-core and 10-core parts on his roadmap. Apparently they will matter moments before they launch those higher core count parts.
Hmm, wonder if they also thought having more than 2 working Sata ports don't matter
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snip: As to the argument of "no applications use more than 4 cores" just remind them that a few years ago the argument was "no application uses more than 2 cores" which was preceded by "no application uses more than one core."

All of that was preceded by "nobody will ever need more than 640K".

The guy telling you that more cores don't matter is the same guy peddling 6-core parts today with 8-core and 10-core parts on his roadmap. Apparently they will matter moments before they launch those higher core count parts.
Yeah, but I suspect that multiple integer cores will probably go no higher than 16 for desktops. When software sloooooowly manages to finally catch up the capability of an APU rendering etc. will be done with the GPU section not the integer section and as far as I know there isn't any other reason for more cores.

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Hmm, wonder if they also thought having more than 2 working Sata ports don't matter
Oh, ouch!
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post #27 of 44
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bulldozer is a myth

well sandybridge chipset bug is not myth, its true.. "good for ya"

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Beers, if you are going to drink a Kölsch, at least make it a good one:

http://www.frueh.de/
John , do you started own beer business ?

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Hmm, wonder if they also thought having more than 2 working Sata ports don't matter
Duke Nukem once said : Oooh, thats gotta hurt !
    
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Yeah, but I suspect that multiple integer cores will probably go no higher than 16 for desktops. When software sloooooowly manages to finally catch up the capability of an APU rendering etc. will be done with the GPU section not the integer section and as far as I know there isn't any other reason for more cores.
Not if someone can somehow develop a cpu that uses multiple cores to efficiently process one thread, whch is what a lot of BD rumours from a year ago were saying would be the case with BD.
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John , do you started own beer business ?
They're a bit older than me. But I always drink that when I am in Cologne and Frankfurt.

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Not if someone can somehow develop a cpu that uses multiple cores to efficiently process one thread, whch is what a lot of BD rumours from a year ago were saying would be the case with BD.
Eventually we will all get there on the client side. Why are you assuming that there will still be big threads you have to break apart? Why wouldn't the better solution be the software doing that vs. trying to break and reassemble big threads?
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april (rumor)

16 core version is for SERVERS. im not sure if AMD will give us a 16 core Opty that fits AM3+. its probably only gonna be that LGA server socket.
oh and technically the 8 core CPU is a quad core.
BD has 4 modules (basically cores) that run TWO threads through them. not like HT's fake threads, but real physical threads.
this also means that 16 core BD is an 8 core CPU.

OMG I CANT WAIT FOR THIS! i hope they release a AM3 version for us ppl that dont want to spend another 220 bucks on another expensive ROG mobo.
You're wrong.

8 cores = 8 cores. 16 cores = 16 cores.
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