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Hey!!! I just signed up today, so a big HI to everyone here.

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I recently built a system from scratch to prepare for Crysis 2. I'm a huge crysis fan and I know I'm not alone. Anyways, I put my system specs in my signature because I see a lot of people doing that for reference purposes.

(The main vein)
So I plan on overclocking my CPU as soon as I can get my hands on a non-stock cooler. Would you go with air or liquid? Any particular ones? I was thinking an h50 or Coolermaster v8 (looks cool...get it? cool?)

Anyways, I've been looking everywhere for a noob-friendly yet in-depth tutorial/bible for overclocking but only found articles that were either so complicated they sounded chinese, and so simple they might have been written by a 12 year-old. I know the goal is to get the clock speed as high as possible as stable as possible. But all this talk about tuning voltages, timings, and RAM frequency has got me dizzier than a nascar driver. If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be an appreciative/happy camper.

This is the best i've found so far.... It seems so simple, yet part of me doesn't believe it... I'd like to understand this a little more than "monkey see monkey do".


Edited by EscapeartisT - 1/31/11 at 6:12pm
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Okay keep studying guides etc till you think you know enough to start tinkering.............

until then buy your CPU cooler

Air- Noctua NH D14 or Thermaltake Silver Arrow- Only If they fit in your case!
4Ghz+ basically guaranteed on the noctua and thermaltake listed above.

V8 would be okay, more effective with a high air flow case, which yours isn't.
If you want cheap, a coolermaster hyper212+ with a couple of decent fans can do reasonably well.

Water - H50 would work for 4ghz+

(generally people on either the noctua NH D14 or H50 with 1055T are on about 4.1Ghz)

Noticed your motherboard has only 4+1 power phase could be a problem for high overclocks, maybe just get the hyper 212+ and go for a more reasonable 3.8Ghz?

Could use some second opinions on the potential of that mobo before splashing out on an expensive cooler though.....................
Edited by Casey Ryback - 1/31/11 at 8:12pm
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I looked at those coolers you suggested. The noctua does look tempting seeing as it may give me 4ghz... but I just about jumped in without testing the waters; I went into my motherboard's BIOS to see if I could OC the cpu from there. Theres no option to tweak the multiplier, nor can I enable/disable turbo. On top of that, there is no option to play with the CPU bus frequency.
However, there's the option "CPU Unlock" which, stated in the manual, "Allows you to determine whether unlock hidden CPU cores". (Word for word)
Then theres "CPU core Control," which just allows you to disable cores 1 through 5.
Is it just me or did I buy a motherboard with no overclock potential?
I mean I could overclock with 3rd party software.... but isn't that less stable or safe?
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Ok i'm understanding this now.
1. I set a goal... ex: 3.2 ghz
2. I set CPU clock ratio & Host frequency so that CPU frequency = 3.2 GHZ
3. For testing/trial purposes, all other variables must be eliminated. So memory clock and northbridge clock must be set to compensate, so that they return to stock settings...
4. Test CPU idle & load temps.

I'm still in the dark though... Do people usually overclock their memory, northbridge freq, or HT link freq?

Sorry for all the questions by the way.
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Originally Posted by Casey Ryback View Post

Noticed your motherboard has only 4+1 power phase could be a problem for high overclocks, maybe just get the hyper 212+ and go for a more reasonable 3.8Ghz?

Could use some second opinions on the potential of that mobo before splashing out on an expensive cooler though.....................
How do I find out about how many power phases my motherboard has? I'm curious about my ability to blow up my motherboard (I wanna counter that tho).

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Originally Posted by EscapeartisT View Post
I looked at those coolers you suggested. The noctua does look tempting seeing as it may give me 4ghz... but I just about jumped in without testing the waters; I went into my motherboard's BIOS to see if I could OC the cpu from there. Theres no option to tweak the multiplier, nor can I enable/disable turbo. On top of that, there is no option to play with the CPU bus frequency.
However, there's the option "CPU Unlock" which, stated in the manual, "Allows you to determine whether unlock hidden CPU cores". (Word for word)
Then theres "CPU core Control," which just allows you to disable cores 1 through 5.
Is it just me or did I buy a motherboard with no overclock potential?
I mean I could overclock with 3rd party software.... but isn't that less stable or safe?

You cannot unlock a 6core CPU. You have 6 cores (counted from 0-5) and you can disable 5 of them (one still needs to be running). There's however no need to do this and core unlocking is only for those CPU's that have a possibility to unlock into more cores (dual core processors).
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First off here is a really good guide explaining everything there is to know about overclocking and what changes increase what performance and what makes what unstable...Great guide by stonedzen check it out

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/90...ide-newbs.html

Just keep pushing it to a limit you are comfortable with...but honestly i don't think you will have a problem running crysis 2 on ur rig...developers are making the new crysis more streamlined and more optimized, they say even a dual core can run the game...all u really need is a good grfx card...which i see u have a 6950 comming so u are good to go.

Also i would recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ thats the cooler i have and take a look at my sig's I would say it runs rather well for a $30 cooler lolz
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First you need to read your manual so that you know where settings are in the BIOS. I am almost certain that your board will OC. Keep the HT Link speed at around 2000 to 2200. NB frequency can go higher. The Hyper 212 Plus is a very decent cooler for the price. Not sure how it would handle an X6 but my friend uses one on his I5 with very good results. You don't need to mess with any Core Unlocking settings. Probably the clock might be called CPU Frequency or something like that.
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Hey AMDdude, great article. I read all of it, thanks!
And thanks for the info coonman and nikopo.

So I went out and got myself a Coolit ECO liquid CPU cooler (75 CAD ). Installed relatively easy despite the case modification. My window-side panel was pushed 1 millimeter off its "mounting" rails because a part of the inside of it was up against the radiator, but not with some light filing.

With the stock cooler, my 1055t idled at 25-26 C. Now, (stock clock) it idles at a good 16-17C (Radiator only has one fan, will be adding another when it comes in the mail I have one front intake fan, one side-window-intake fan, a ceiling exhaust, and radiator/rear exhaust). Stock clock max temp when running Prime95 blend test is 40.

I think I'm ready to start oc'ing, but I worry about the memory and chipset temperatures but should I? I'll try to keep them as close to stock settings throughout.
I'm using HWmonitor which supposedly monitors my chipset temps... but what's TMPIN0, 1 and 2?
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you have the same motherboard as me, when you go into bios do Ctrl F1, save bios settings and restart (unlocks the memory settings)

i will get pics for you in next few days of my exact settings so you have an idea of things
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Tried to overclock to 3.5ghz.
Turbo boost disabled
250x14=3.5Ghz
NB freq 250x8 = stock 2000mhz
^same for HT link
Memory clock 5.33 x 250 = near stock 1332mhz.
Booted into black screen, and computer rebooted itself and BIOS immediately said "System experienced failure because of overclocking". WHYYYY?! (pretty please!)

I'd love to see what you've goin' there norseman!
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