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Originally Posted by BeerPowered View Post
Like I said before "All the people making a big deal out of it are just mad because Sandy Bridge kicks their chips ass down the hall and back."
I'm not mad lol

Intrigued , but not mad lol

The moment I read the title about SB i was like " nu-uh, Intel nor AMD would ever release something faulty!" So i read on and understood. and like some one above me said "its best to make these news short or people will not get the whole info and just assume things. this kind of stuff bothers me :/ the whole people not reading through.

Could some1 refer me to more sophisticated Article? the one i read felt like it was written by a fifth grader, or some one that is clueless on tech

Edit: I did not mean OP. By the time I posted He had added a load of new info.. which is basically all of what i know
Edited by Dorianime - 1/31/11 at 10:07pm
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post #12 of 52
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Could some1 refer me to more sophisticated Article? the one i read felt like it was written by a fifth grader, or some one that is clueless on tech
http://newsroom.intel.com/community/...nting-solution
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I totally agree with the OP. I've been trying to calm this... hysteria. Honestly, Intel have spotted the problem nice and early, and have a fixed PCH chip starting to come out of the fabs now. This is a non-issue, really, so why it's caused half of OCN to act like the woman in an early 60s sit-com who's just seen a mouse is frankly beyond me. (for those who don't know - they stand on a table, clutch their skirts and scream like fog-horns...)

Precis of the reality:
A minor tweak to the clock transistor setup of the SataII controller on the PCH/Southbridge that was put into the B2 stepping of the cougar point chipset (B2 is the consumer release, all previous were test versions) has been seen to have a significant failure rate over time. This failure rate increases with heavy use, increased voltages and Bclk overclocking. This failure manifests initially as data errors on read/write which can lead to corrupted files and partitions, eventually the Sata channel fails.
A B3 stepping which has corrected this flaw is being moved into production now, and will be sent to board manufacturers very soon, who can then arrange to replace the boards with the affected PCH.
Only the 4 sataII ports controlled by the PCH are affected. The 2 sataIII ports on the PCH are not affected by this failure, nor are any additional sataI/II/III ports provided by secondary chips on the motherboard.
Edited by allikat - 1/31/11 at 10:29pm
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Seriously ...I know...just having a little fun before I tun in for the night
TROLLL!!!

lol jk xD go back to amd blahman lol

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Originally Posted by allikat View Post
I totally agree with the OP. I've been trying to calm this... hysteria. Honestly, Intel have spotted the problem nice and early, and have a fixed PCH chip starting to come out of the fabs now. This is a non-issue, really, so why it's caused half of OCN to act like the woman in an early 60s sit-com who's just seen a mouse is frankly beyond me. (for those who don't know - they stand on a table, clutch their skirts and scream like fog-horns...)

Precis of the reality:
A minor tweak to the clock transistor setup of the SataII controller on the PCH/Southbridge that was put into the B2 stepping of the cougar point chipset (B2 is the consumer release, all previous were test versions) has been seen to have a significant failure rate over time. This failure rate increases with heavy use, increased voltages and Bclk overclocking. This failure manifests initially as data errors on read/write which can lead to corrupted files and partitions, eventually the Sata channel fails.
A B3 stepping which has corrected this flaw is being moved into production now, and will be sent to board manufacturers very soon, who can then arrange to replace the boards with the affected PCH.
Only the 4 sataII ports controlled by the PCH are affected. The 2 sataIII ports on the PCH are not affected by this failure, nor are any additional sataI/II/III ports provided by secondary chips on the motherboard.

yea i know... only people that are "seriously" effected are ppl that use literally all their sata ports!!! in asus board case is freaking 8 drives. I do not know what you have in there, but pretty sure is a load of porn.

I just laugh every time i see someone selling their SB setup or making new thread asking OCN if they should return their board, or make more threads on how SB has killed their cat or reporting due to sb failure, intel has officially been brought out by North Korea.

And newegg is totally not helping the cause by pulling the sb CPUs, when there is literally nothing wrong with them.... sigh

Someone should seriously make a Hitler Video on this, i bet it would be so funny!
Edited by puffsNasco - 1/31/11 at 11:15pm
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this is why i sold my x58 system because of this faulty sata port...wait a minute...fuvk
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My computer build feels dirty now though... that sounds like a joke, but it really does feel dirty...

I've had 4 defective parts in it already... now a 5th... out of 7 parts that I purchased... that is absolutely ridiculous

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post #17 of 52
I would like to thank puffsNasco for his effort in this manner. If only more of our members were like him, willing and able to sit down, read the facts, understand the whole story, and share them in an unbiased manner with the populace. Serious props to you.

I want in particular to bring this up, though:

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Originally Posted by puffsNasco View Post
4. This is Intel's fault, but so far it seems they're handling it well and being completely honest about the situation. Some AMD fans see this news and go "AHA! Intel sucks! AMD will rise to the top!!!" etc... but is it really that big of a deal? The Sandy Bridge CPUs are still amazing and by far the best choice at the moment, this only affects one month of Sandy Bridge motherboards already purchased, and will bottleneck the sales of new ones for maybe another month, but in 3 months everything will be back to normal.
Intel's fault. Yes. What most people seem to be completely overlooking is that INTEL ADMITTED IT WAS THEIR FAULT. Not only that, they admitted it BEFORE it ever became a serious issue for consumers. If they wanted, they could have kept their mouths shut and lets us users suddenly discover the issue two years down the line, when the controllers failed outright. Rather than that, they manned up the their error and are already working towards making amends. They're not laughing at us and leaving us to fend for our selves in the wilderness. So stop with the bashing them already.



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Yep, too difficult. Better get the whole story out in no more than five words, or it's over.
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LOL WELL SAID!!!!

i totally agree...

intel's press release should of said: tiny problem that only effect 3% of you. Will have new improved version for people to freely upgrade to. Have a nice Day!


instead design flaw, the word flaw means to people who do not read news " **** FLAW CRAPPY SANDY BRIDGE! SHOULD OF STICK TO MY AMD/X58. INTEL SO Sht, MUST RETURN/SELL TO GET RID OF "FLAW"

which can be fix by plug in ur drives into a sata3.. heck just buy like a sata 2 controller cost like dirty fix the problem.
Yes, 'flaw' was the wrong word to use.

However, you know there's no way they would have gotten out of this unscathed. They could have sent out your message, but the first non-SB owner to receive and understand the message would have immediately changed the title to what it is and run away with it. Intel would never have gotten their message through in time.

A lie can run around the world before the truth has got its boots on.



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It's not even that there is a small problem, it's that some of us might experience a small problem.

In about 3 years time they figure.
Exactly. And who, by that point, will still have a SB board with more than 4 drives on it? I find that generally people who hold on to hardware that long don't splurge on many drives...



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Another thing i must add is , everyone clocking upto 5ghz and 1.5v on these chips is probably not contributing to this problem , i can see this stuffing up sata ports after long use ..
I've been running almost non-stop 4.5, rendering pretty much sun up to sun down. Guess what hasn't exploded. Oh, yeah, every single component in my computer. This OVERCLOCKING SB WILL MAKE YOUR HAIR FALL OUT bollocks is just that, bollocks.
Edited by AblueXKRS - 2/1/11 at 12:53am
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I knew it.....Sandy Bridge is full of FAIL. Hahaha Intel suck AMD RULES....just kidding guys, lol.
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Wait so they're stuff is blowing up? Lol kidding. I am bummed because I cant find anywhere to buy a board from lmao!
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I think some people are over-reacting a bit... If you read a lot of the articles you'll see that it's a statistical issue and only a small percentage of the boards will even experience a problem.
Thalidamide was only a "statistical" problem to the people it didn't affect. This SB issue is is only a "statistical" problem to me, but those with SB parts shouldn't bury their heads so far in the sand. I'd be fuming just because of having to disassemble, send off and be without my pc for god knows how long. Or are they going to send you replacement boards without you having to send yours back first?
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