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Hey guys looking into watercooling, my specs are below. Also note that i will be getting a new computer with slightly better specs (my friend willing to pay good $ for it )

My concern is will watercooling really benifit me. I am at 4.0 on the 930 with loads at 60, idle 35s. I tried going for more, but i had to give it alot of voltage just to get to 4.2 so decided not to. Well i should be getting a gulftown and 2x 580s soon.

Some recommendations of parts would be usefull as well. and Do want to cool the gpu's as well
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post #2 of 16
I would. I would w/c all. Not sure if there is a waterblock for your mobo.

EK Supreme HF CPU block
Ek FC block for gpu. Not sure weather you have 480 or 580
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XSPC SIngle 5.25" drive bay res (depending weather you want bay or non bay res I don't know But that is a good bay res)
MCP655 pump
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post #3 of 16
Ok, for an i7 and a pair of 580s, then you'll need 5x120 or 6x120mm (split and arranged to suit your case) worth of radiator to be worth it.

What you need:
A pump
Water blocks to suit each component you want to water cool.
Radiators
A silver kill coil or a small bottle of PT nuke
A supply of distilled water
Fittings (barbs or compression fittings) and tubing to suit the fittings.
Add in some hose clamps if you use barbs, and you're sorted.

You can split up that amount of radiator as best suits your case, You could run 6 1x120mm rads if you wanted, or a pair of 3x120mm, or a 2x120 and a 4x120mm. I don't know the HAF well enough to advise on the best rad layout.
If you get the right blocks, rads and fans, you can cut noise a lot, and lower temps into the bargain.

I second the recommendation for the XSPC single bay res, the built in fill port, easily visible water level, bubble removal efficiency and ease to setup makes it a good one in my view.
Edited by allikat - 1/31/11 at 9:15pm
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post #4 of 16
What heatsink are you using? Watercooling is more about the aesthetic appeal rather than the actual performance (which is no slouch). However, with a good tower heatsink (D14, Mugen, Silver Arrow, etc) you can keep a 980X under control. As for graphics cards, all manufacturers have models with upgraded layouts and thermal handling, so any 2 fan GTX 580 should keep it under reasonable temps, since the architecture has been tweaked for cooler temps. My point I guess, is are you willing to drop enough dough to cover all of your critical components? Are you commited to regular check-up/cleaning of your loop (can be weekly to yearly lol). As for whether or not it will benefit you, depending on the heatsink you are using currently, you could see a 10C drop in temps. Cheers.
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post #5 of 16
I dont like to use disttilled+pt-nuke or kill coil because it is conductive and if you get a leak you wont be happy. or use compression fittings.
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post #6 of 16
Yeah I would fo w/c with gulftown, I'm thermally limited on air with my 980x on a megahalems. Are you keeping the haf-x or changing cases when you sell the old one?

Personally I would start off with the xspc 360 kit and just cool your cpu. It's a great deal and good for beginners. Then see how your temps run on the 580s on the stock coolers and then add them to the loop (with another rad) if you want to, or add a second loop just for the gpus. EK make great stuff, however if you wait a little longer xspc should release some 580 waterblocks too and they are usually 30-40% cheaper than EK.
     
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post #7 of 16
need? haha

of course you dont need to. your temps are good for 4.0 on air.

water cooling is just a nerd's legos. its a fun project.
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I dont like to use disttilled+pt-nuke or kill coil because it is conductive and if you get a leak you wont be happy. or use compression fittings.
This is pure misinformation.
All coolants become conductive over time. Distilled+nuke or distilled+killcoil are the best coolants to use, no other offers any advantage in temps or conductivity.
And compression fittings are just as secure as barbs when done right, and just as insecure as badly fitted barbs when done wrong.

Installation and leak testing is key when watercooling.
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This is pure misinformation.
All coolants become conductive over time. Distilled+nuke or distilled+killcoil are the best coolants to use, no other offers any advantage in temps or conductivity.
And compression fittings are just as secure as barbs when done right, and just as insecure as badly fitted barbs when done wrong.

Installation and leak testing is key when watercooling.
Then replace it! It is better to have it non conductive sometime...
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post #10 of 16
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Then replace it! It is better to have it non conductive sometime...
Every time you change your water you take a chance of causing a leak. No leak, with conductive water, is better than a leak with nonconducting water. I don't think leaks are all that big of a worry.

I use the RASA XSPC kit and it works like a charm. I did see 10c drop in temps switching from an H70. Good luck on what ever you decide to do.
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