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Ok,
seeing as its tax time AND im getting extra money back from Collage, Doing a PC upgrade came to mind. Although i just had to rebuild a good chunk of it (melted a few voltage regulators). Really, i think the slow point in my PC is the GPU.... but I really dont have any issues playing games at the moment. Heres my Current Specs

Mobo: ASRock 880G Extreme3
RAM: 8GB a-data DDR3-1600 (8-9-8-24)
PROC: Phenom II x3 740 @ 3849MHz (208x18.5)
GPU: nVidia GTX260 (216sp) factory OC
HDD: OS-Samsung Spinpoint F1 750GB Games-Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
PSU: OCZ MODxTreme 700w
Coolermaster HAF 932 case

Decent rig i know.... but i was wondering if that GTX260 would hold up for another generation, or if i should snag a 5xx card.

I am actually a little behind on what games are comming out this year.... but i am most likly going to be playing RIFT... depending on the reviews, Crysis 2... and anything else that catches my eye.... I would really like to stick with nVidia, i tend to use CUDA software once or twice a week (unless DVDfab has ATI acceleration)

I also run 2 monitors, both 22.5", but one is 1680x1050, the other is 1920x1080... i have new idea which one i will be gaming in, as i just got the 1080 in last week.... color looks better (LED LCD), but i do miss the bit of extra height.

Also a hard price limit of $300... really want to keep it closer to $250

Any suggestions are much appreciated
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Get a GTX 480
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The 260 is still a relatively good card, however you will need more power to keep with the current and upcoming generation of games, the best bang for buck currently is the newly released 560Ti:- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tx+560&x=0&y=0 and is also a very good upgrade.

Keeping within that price range, albeit a tad higher than your preferred amount, is also the 6950:- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...n=6950&x=0&y=0

As you've got a CF capable Mobo, you can always utilize your 260 for PhysX Processing, or Folding, so it's not completely gone to waste.
 
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Get a GTX 480
You didn't read the OP's message. He has a $300 hard limit, and 480s are $400 unless you buy used.

To the OP, the waiting game is an endless one. If you decide to wait for the next gen, you are essentially saying "I don't need to upgrade." I hate (and love) the waiting game, as it often pays off (and often doesn't).

A GTX 260 is a good card, but it won't run Crysis 2 at max. Honestly, though, neither will a $300 card from the current gen (a 6950 2GB or a GTX 560 Ti), judging by the cards you needed to run Crysis 1 at max settings at launch (you need an SLI setup of the best cards on the market at launch).

However, Crysis 2 will most definitely use DX11 and tessellation, which means that your card won't even run it with all of the features turned on. My advice, if you definitely need CUDA, is to get a 560 Ti (they currently are selling for around $260). This is a significant performance bump, as a 560 is slightly faster than a 470, and a direct competitor to the 6950. It is also DX11 and supports tessellation. It uses significantly less power at idle (and thus idles under or around 30C), and is a tremendous overclocker: you can overclock the core on many 560s to 1Ghz from an 800Mhz standard clock, giving you over %20 overclock on the core. The 560 looks to be the sweet spot for price/performance, and an overclocker's best friend.

Then, if you find in 6 months that it isn't running everything at max at 1080P, which it should for most games that aren't Crysis 2, you can always get another (and the price will probably be closer to $200 or less), and achieve SIGNIFICANTLY better FPS and synthetic benchmark results than a GTX 580 for less than the price of a single 580 (around $500 at the moment). In fact, Guru3D shows a 560 SLI setup scoring about %20 higher than a 580 in 3DMark 11.

GTX 260s are still selling for $100+ on Ebay as well, so your total upgrade cost after selling your current card could be $160 or less for your first 560.

Hope this was a thorough enough answer for you.
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I like the idea of getting another in a few months (or using my current one for physx), but with my mobo, if both 16x slots are used, they drop to 8x each.... wouldnt that hurt more than help? (i know jack about CF/SLI)
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The 480 is cheap in the UK now, So I don't see how it can be $400 in the US
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Not at all. The difference in performance is %1-%3, which is usually about .5 to 1.5 fps. Most cards simply don't used the full bandwidth of the PCI-E lanes to begin with. They did tests using 5870s and 480s, and the performance wasn't affected in SLI when switching from 2 x 8X boards to 2 x 16X boards. Don't worry about that. : D
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The 480 is cheap in the UK now, So I don't see how it can be $400 in the US
yeah, cheapest one I found is $380
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yeah, cheapest one I found is $380
And that one is recertified (i.e. used). lolz
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Actually, the one thing you might want to worry about if you plan on going SLI is the power supply. Guru3D has an article on 560 SLI here: http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforc...-sli-review/14. They show the load power consumption of the two cards at ~300 watts, but that's before overclocking. I'd allow an extra 50 watts per card for significant overclocking, bringing it to 400 watts. Given that you have a pretty modern system and an already overclocked CPU, your power supply might be reaching its limit with 2 560s. You *might* need a higher wattage. Guru3D recommends a minimum 700 watt PSU for 560 SLI, but an 800+ watt for a high end system with overclocking going on.
Keep this in mind.
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