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Their product, their store, their rules. Shouldn't be much of a surprise there.
Yeah. I see nothing wrong here. Only butthurt euro socialists raging hurr.
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post #22 of 37
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And what if the user opens up Opera instead of iSafari? The user is buying books using non-Apple software, so it really isn't any different.


Sony should just pull out and keep focusing on Android. Nobody is really going to care if there is a Sony app on the app store, since by the end of the year I doubt people are going to care much about the app store at all, given Android's exponential rise to the top. Apple is just going to be one manufacturer among many, handicapped by a proprietary, locked down OS.
The Android Market will fall sooner than the Apple Appstore, that is, if Google keeps allowing such soft regulation and protection of original application signed packages. It doesn't take a whole lot of prowess to pirate and hijack an app, and then sell it on the Android market.

Take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900923

So far, there's only one person doing it... that we know of. There could be more.
post #23 of 37
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Originally Posted by RonindeBeatrice View Post
So, how do Kindle or nook work their way around this?

I guess it's because Sony is trying to bypass the middleman and not surrender any profit here?

Edit: So, Sony only has to open up the web browser if they want to bypass this?, Like Amazon does?


It sounds like a lot of grey area that apple needs to get cleared up, or they're going to damage their image with users of the most popular ebook readers.

If folks can't actually browse, buy, read titles on their iPad, but instead have to go home and download the title on their PC first, it destroys a lot of the appeal.
yeah the workaround apparently is key with using the browser. The marketplace technically isn't in the app but rather the web which somehow makes it a-o-k.

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The Android Market will fall sooner than the Apple Appstore, that is, if Google keeps allowing such soft regulation and protection of original application signed packages. It doesn't take a whole lot of prowess to pirate and hijack an app, and then sell it on the Android market.
people do this on the apple store though too. Do you remember the whole "mirror app" trend? There were like 3 dozen different retarded "transform your phone into a pocket mirror!!!" that all it did was turn off the screen.

sure that's not "pirate, hijack, and then resell" an app but it's to the same effect of duplication. I'm pretty sure to hijack an app on the appstore isn't too different. From what I'm aware, you can open up any app on Apple's store in your own SDK and modify crap aplenty to your content as long as you're a developer. Which Apple constitutes as ANYONE who pays the $100 entry fee yearly. With some ID editing or even easier: copy pasta code - anyone could be jacking apps on the Apple store as well.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 2/1/11 at 9:43pm
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yeah the workaround apparently is key with using the browser. The marketplace technically isn't in the app but rather the web which somehow makes it a-o-k.



people do this on the apple store though too. Do you remember the whole "mirror app" trend? There were like 3 dozen different retarded "transform your phone into a pocket mirror!!!" that all it did was turn off the screen.

sure that's not "pirate, hijack, and then resell" an app but it's to the same effect of duplication. I'm pretty sure to hijack an app on the appstore isn't too different. From what I'm aware, you can open up any app on Apple's store in your own SDK and modify crap aplenty to your content as long as you're a developer. Which Apple constitutes as ANYONE who pays the $100 entry fee yearly. With some ID editing or even easier: copy pasta code - anyone could be jacking apps on the Apple store as well.
Not as far as I understand it. There are certain things that are hardcoded into the app once it's signed, on both the Market and the Appstore. For instance, on the Market, if someone were to hijack, they can't take the name, or the icon out, but they can assign their own name to it and charge whatever they want.

Doesn't seem to be an easy way of doing it on the Appstore.
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Not as far as I understand it. There are certain things that are hardcoded into the app once it's signed, on both the Market and the Appstore. For instance, on the Market, if someone were to hijack, they can't take the name, or the icon out, but they can assign their own name to it and charge whatever they want.

Doesn't seem to be an easy way of doing it on the Appstore.
You can't take the same name on the market - no. Nor can you simply take an app, go into Xcode, change a few lines, and resell it. But - with a bunch of copy pasta from the existing into a "new" app and then selling this "new" app it wouldn't be too hard. Especially if it's a not-so-complex app that doesn't too much complexity behind it.

There are only a few signed IDs that go into the apps, and if one were to simply cut/paste parts of code out into a different app with different ID I dont believe there is a way to differentiate as far as I'm aware. I could be wrong as this is just based off my light tinkering with apps which was short lived as I hate emulating OSX yet alone using it.
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Wow...

DavinciDevelopers is going to get suuuuued.


The only problem I have with the Marketplace is the blatant piracy. Well, that and the horrible search. Google should be ashamed of themselves.
    
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Our money, Our money, Our money.
Which means...what, exactly?
    
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Herding those cattle. Bit ranching is goooood binesss.
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post #29 of 37
I'm not the biggest fan of apple as a company, or their businesses tactics. But i think they should be allowed to do this.

Apple aren't running a public service, they're trying to run a business and make money.
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I'm not the biggest fan of apple as a company, or their businesses tactics. But i think they should be allowed to do this.

Apple aren't running a public service, they're trying to run a business and make money.
Yeah, agreed. It's like Sony getting up in arms because the apple stores aren't selling VAIO laptops.
    
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