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Please elaborate! I'd love to drop FUSE/NTFS-3G

Edit: As for the "crashing" part of Arch: Yeah; it comes with the bleeding edge. Arch isn't always magically stable. That's just how it goes. Don't like it? Then you don't like Arch's philosophy. Sometimes you hit roadblocks and it's up to you to figure it out. I actually enjoy this part of Arch, lol. It keeps me in check to know exactly what is going on with my PC.

PS Yaourt sucks.
Use the ntfs module and mount as type ntfs instead.

And yaourt is much much better than many other AUR helpers for me. Mainly because it actually support running as root rather than forcing you to run as a standard user.

You can investigate system lock ups in many ways. Most common causes is just X not playing along. Try doing the REISUB key combo - if your computer reboots doing that, then it's more than likely a X or graphics driver issue.

The easiest fix I'd want to try out would be to try another kernel. Try the kernel26-lts package in the repositories next time. If that doesn't fix it, you might want to try to compile your own kernel - the kernel26-git PKGBUILD on the AUR works really well.

If that doesn't fix it either, then it's definitely an X issue.
Edited by gonX - 2/3/11 at 6:49am
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Yeah mounting as straight ntfs uses the kernel module. It's been there since before ntfs-3g, but ntfs-3g got stable write support first so most people use it instead.
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is the module faster than ntfs-3g? i thought i noticed a marketed transfer speed between my ext and ntfs drives the other day, just wrote it off to my system being "giddy".
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yaourt? Build it yourself using PKGBUILD hints.
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is the module faster than ntfs-3g? i thought i noticed a marketed transfer speed between my ext and ntfs drives the other day, just wrote it off to my system being "giddy".
It appears NTFS-3G is now the in-kernel driver and NTFS is still under developed. I guess I didn't know about that change, so it's all native as of now. =P You won't see a difference.
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It appears NTFS-3G is now the in-kernel driver and NTFS is still under developed.
Mind posting to where that was announced? To my knowledge there is limited write support to the kernel module and you can randomly hit "operation not supported" errors. The people I talked to said NTFS-3G is still supposedly the final solution and the kernel support will likely never be complete.
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Mind posting to where that was announced? To my knowledge there is limited write support to the kernel module and you can randomly hit "operation not supported" errors. The people I talked to said NTFS-3G is still supposedly the final solution and the kernel support will likely never be complete.
Well NTFS-3G itself can't be a kernel module, that's impossible, but they talk as if it's going to replace NTFS completely. I guess saying it's native is wrong, as it's a FUSE filesystem, but it has taken precedence over the original driver. I doubt anyone will bother with it at this point, NTFS-3G works so much better. Oddly though on my system I don't have to type ntfs-3g to mount stuff with write, I get full write with just ntfs and have been doing that for a while. I assume it's still mounting as if I type "ntfs-3g", pushing the commands for the in-kernel support out of the way.
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