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H70 is a joke for almost $100. For $30 more you can get RASA 240 which puts H70 to shame. H70 has mediocre performance and isn't considered water cooling. It's an all in one solution piece of garbage. Also, the H70 comes with 2 very mediocre Corsair OEM fans. You would have to replace those to see optimal results. However, after replacing those with better fans, you would reached the cost of a RASA RS240 and it would still under perform by 10C.

Now if you want the "bling" you can spend over $300 for a custom loop with nice compression fittings, however it will not help with temps by much. Since you're going for a CPU only loop you don't need many radiators. A single 240 rad will be more than enough. Adding more rads doesn't mean your temperature will decrease.
Edited by Clairvoyant129 - 2/1/11 at 4:58pm
 
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H70 is for people that cant or don't want to do a custom system. It is an air cooler imo.

This coming from a guy that is running an H50 and has run multiple water cooled systems.

I cant wait to get my water blocks and to complete my loop.

Like many have said the RASA kit is nice, I personally like to just create my own kit because there is something in the kit I always either don't like or what different.

Use the kit as a reference and then buy all the parts you want.
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That $40 might include brokerage, and it might not. I wouldn't risk it as if it doesn't you'll get hit with a $100+ COD for that $300 package. Plus, Dazmode shipping is only around $25.

Why do you need compression fittings? The XSPC Rasa Kit comes with Tubing and fittings already, and the chance of leaking with a compression fitting is actually higher than for a barbed fitting. If you do really want compression fittings, get 1/2" ID 3/4" OD Tube and their compression fittings.

I didn't realize the TwinFrozr was so cheap, thanks for pointing that out! thumb.gif

If you are going to run SLI here is an AMAZING powersupply that will easily power two overclocked 560s while costing significantly less than that XFX Unit:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096&cm_re=Seasonic_620-_-17-151-096-_-Product

It's from Seasonic, which is actually the OEM that makes the goodies inside of that XFX unit anyways!

Those Coolermaster fans are crap. Their manufacturer rated specifications are false. Basically, spinning at their lowest speed they make 19 DBa of noise and spinning at their highest speed they produce 90 CFM. They will never do both at the same time. Martin210 is a very reputable member on this website and he tested over 50 PC fans and found that the GentleTyphoon was by far the best in terms of noise/CFM ratio. He used a lot of real measuring equipment, such as a hot wire aerometer and a quality decibel meter weighed on the A scale. His test results can be found here: http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/859483-round-6-fan-testing-working-thread.html

Ok. I'll use the included fittings and I'll buy from Dazmode.

For the power supply, it says it only has 2 PCI-E connectors? Instead, could I use the corsair 750W? It's the highest rated power supply on Newegg, and I can get it for 110$ on BestDirect.ca (http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/166446/CMPSU-750TX/CORSAIR/)

For the fans, I'll use the GentreTyphoon for my rad, but what other cheap fan(s) would you suggest for the rest of the case? Cause I don't want to spend 16$/fans if I need to buy 5 fans...
Just a little question though.. Is it worth the 5 extra dollars to use the 15s instead of the 14s?


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I didn't realize the TwinFrozr was so cheap, thanks for pointing that out! thumb.gif
You're welcome! cool.gif
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For the power supply, it says it only has 2 PCI-E connectors? Instead, could I use the corsair 750W? It's the highest rated power supply on Newegg, and I can get it for 110$ on BestDirect.ca (http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/16...750TX/CORSAIR/)

For the fans, I'll use the GentreTyphoon for my rad, but what other cheap fan(s) would you suggest for the rest of the case? Cause I don't want to spend 16$/fans if I need to buy 5 fans...
Just a little question though.. Is it worth the 5 extra dollars to use the 15s instead of the 14s?
The powersupply could easily handle two 560s, you'd just have to use the molex --> PCI-E connectors. If you don't want to do that I'd just get the TX-750. While it isn't the absolute best PSU available, it's definitely a top contender and considering the lower price point it may be worth the added cost.

For the fans, I would get these: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-021-_-Product

They have a dual ball bearing and perform quite well.

I'd just stick with the AP-14s, they will easily be enough for your computer. They will also be a bit quieter due to the lower RPM.
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For the fans, I would get these: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200021&cm_re=rosewill_120mm-_-35-200-021-_-Product

They have a dual ball bearing and perform quite well.

What do you think about these? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233015
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It's okay. Sleeve bearing and poor efficiency but good looks and a CFM/DB ratio that's actually decent.
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I'm going with the MSI GTX 560 Twin-Frozr because it's one of the cheapest and because it's MSI, it comes with AfterBurner, which I like. I'm not planning to go with the GTX 570 because the 560 is incredible in SLI.
FYI, afterburner is a free application, and you can use it for any manufacturer's cards. I use it for my evga 460. So just letting you know that shouldn't be your reason to get an MSI card. If you find a good deal great, but don't base it on getting a tuning program with it, all of them are free. Just letting you know
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So help me out here i own one of the obvious POS H70's which will cause your computer to implode..I have a pair of UK 3K's and a shroud and run 4.0 at 1.525 and get about 46/47c with prime after an hour....it will run Prime as long as i let.
Going with a custom loop would get me into the 36-37c range..?Wow im impressed,i think your foS but again that's impressive.Not believable but that's the nice thing about the net you can just make S*%* up as you go along.
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H70 is a joke for almost $100. For $30 more you can get RASA 240 which puts H70 to shame. H70 has mediocre performance and isn't considered water cooling. It's an all in one solution piece of garbage. Also, the H70 comes with 2 very mediocre Corsair OEM fans. You would have to replace those to see optimal results. However, after replacing those with better fans, you would reached the cost of a RASA RS240 and it would still under perform by 10C.

Now if you want the "bling" you can spend over $300 for a custom loop with nice compression fittings, however it will not help with temps by much. Since you're going for a CPU only loop you don't need many radiators. A single 240 rad will be more than enough. Adding more rads doesn't mean your temperature will decrease.
The H70 is nowhere near as bad as those thermaltake kits you used to be able to get. It's about as good as a 120mm rad with a low-power pump.
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FYI, afterburner is a free application, and you can use it for any manufacturer's cards. I use it for my evga 460. So just letting you know that shouldn't be your reason to get an MSI card. If you find a good deal great, but don't base it on getting a tuning program with it, all of them are free. Just letting you know biggrin.gif

Thanks for the info! I didn't know that! But yeah, The MSI card is one of the cheapest, and it offers a good air cooling solution...
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