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You really haven't specified what you are wanting to do. CCNA is beyond simple to get and you should be able to get that inside of a few weeks of hard study. Going back to the question I asked earlier what are you looking for income wise long term. CCNA with 1-2 year exp should net you between 50-60k, CCNP with 5-6year 80-90k, CCNP with 10+ years 130-160k, CCIE (R&S) 5+ years 175k+. CCIE (SP) 5+ years 250k+

Then you have the security side of things too...

Software design in what ever flavor has it's separate scaling also.

You need to do some research decide what you like doing and go that route. I absolutely agree with scottsee. To me a degree is like a piece of toilet paper, all it says is I'm not an idiot I can learn. Exp + Cert is far better.
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Why would you cap off at the CCNA?

No amount of education or training can get you the job you want, you have to earn it. You either know how to do something or you don't. You can't fake it when you're employed. Unless you need a refresher in basic networking or hardware skip the Net+ and A+, it's nothing on a resume. If you want to put food on the table go after Microsoft and Cisco. It's night an day work, one you play with software and administer computers. The other you play with hardware and configure network policy and make **** work.

To do it right you need get your feet wet with real equipment, you have to touch it, smell it, an screw it up just to figure out why it reacted the way it does. Understand the syslog messages that get spit out. You can definitely learn stuff out of a book or on simulation software, But your better off starting off with a server/vmware/Win2008 and Win 7 images and going down the MCITP track nuts deep in the configuration and management then reading it out of a book. The same goes for Cisco, get yourself some real hardware based on what you can afford, hook it up, screw it up. That's how you gain experience.

They say success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm.
The reason being for the cap off is I dont want to stay within the networking field, but its something I feel is necessary to become a viable gateway to other goals. I am in no way disrespecting those who have earned or surpassed the CCNA, but simply dont want to use it as a lifetime career path because I just comfortable within it. I would like to pursue many possibilities within working and education (where ever it may be albeit it school or workplace).

I dont have the experience to step into a Networking facility and pick it up and go, as that would be favorable. But I also see that within the couple of schools Ive attended the instructors have absolutely no interest in the topic at hand and are simply teaching guide lines passed down to them. And as Ive said before Im not in it for the grades, I want the knowledge.

So maybe I should be asking this, where would the first step take place for me, an individual who has no experience in any field of computers save for what ive done on my own?

EDIT:

Ive already done the income scales for each certificate (on avg) and made a few presentations of them while in school.

Im not looking to make much more than 30k USD a year since I would more than likely be living on my own.

This is all so I may school in Japan
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You really haven't specified what you are wanting to do. CCNA is beyond simple to get and you should be able to get that inside of a few weeks of hard study. Going back to the question I asked earlier what are you looking for income wise long term. CCNA with 1-2 year exp should net you between 50-60k, CCNP with 5-6year 80-90k, CCNP with 10+ years 130-160k, CCIE (R&S) 5+ years 175k+. CCIE (SP) 5+ years 250k+

Then you have the security side of things too...

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You need to do some research decide what you like doing and go that route. I absolutely agree with scottsee. To me a degree is like a piece of toilet paper, all it says is I'm not an idiot I can learn. Exp + Cert is far better.
CCNA is beyond simple, in a couple weeks? You're on crack. Those are tough flipping exams.
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CCNA is beyond simple, in a couple weeks? You're on crack. Those are tough flipping exams.
I had mine in 4 days, missed 1 question... granted at the time I took it I had been in the industry 6 years.

The CCNP was abit harder, I took each test every 10 days on aver.
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CCNA is beyond simple, in a couple weeks? You're on crack. Those are tough flipping exams.
My thoughts were similar on the matter...
    
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So maybe I should be asking this, where would the first step take place for me, an individual who has no experience in any field of computers save for what ive done on my own?
In that case where you don't know what it is you like yet. College..
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In that case where you don't know what it is you like yet. College..
Ive done that a few times, which is why I'd like to school somewhere else. No offense, just something I'd like to do
    
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I had mine in 4 days, missed 1 question... granted at the time I took it I had been in the industry 6 years.

The CCNP was abit harder, I took each test every 10 days on aver.
Don't backpedal. CCNP in 10 days after each other? ok.. I'm not making fun of you I just don't believe you.. No offense..
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In that case where you don't know what it is you like yet. College..
Sounds like Scottsee hit it, if u have no clue on what direction you want you should hit up college.
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Have you thought about teaching English?
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