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Thank you good sir.

Well I just reloaded Metro, had some stupid PhysX glitch.

At any rate, @ 1080p, DX10 with everything on very high, AAA, I guesstimate that I was getting ~60FPS average. I'll have to get fraps, seems as though MSI's afterburner isn't liking Win7 too much, It wasn't showing my FPS. But I could tell from screen tearing that I was exceeding 60FPS a lot (only time I ever see it).
Oddly enough, only on the cut scenes was I getting what looked like frame rate loss.

But to address your earlier gripes about the game.

1) The gas mask does get annoying, for sure, but it's going to tie into #2.
2)Yes the little generator is annoying too, but, --I believe-- it's to add to the "realism" of post-apocalyptic Moscow. I could totally see that happening.
3) The guns seem kinda sluggish, but not too horrible. Play with your sensitivity settings, you might find it more appealing.
4) The swarming sucks, but they're easy enough to kill.

What gets me the most though, motion blur. I effin hate it, I wish I could turn it off.


What you've showed me is that 2 460's in SLI, OCed like all hell can barely beat a 5970 at stock clocks by 1%.

And since when did a 5970 cost $1k?

But you've also showed me that my 4870's in CFX are right behind the 460's in SLI. Only 4.8FPS more @ 1080p.

So thanks.
Which bench you referring to? Tweaktown will show you how superior the 460s are. OCed like hell? Very average OC man 830, 900+ gets on the crazy lines.
Again You didn't really refute anything, and haven't provided any evidence to support any of your non existent claims. I provided 3 different data sources so you couldn't tout that I was showing only one favorable site like HardOCP, which btw I couldn't shown but people have told me that data I'd fraudulent. 460sli stock somewhat near 5970.
OC 460sli = 5970.
NEW 460 1gb sli = $360-400
5970 USED on eBay = $430-500

I close this arguement on my side. Final remarks: PWNED.

And have you not seen the Ares or the xfx black edition 4gb 5970? Both are ~$1000+
Omega I've lost -5 respect points for you . You make me not want to keep that quote of you in my sig. I really quite respect you, you're a cool member.
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BTW, Blackie ... afa the AB not showing OSD in Metro problem, go into the MSI Onscreen Display Server config and make sure you have "On Screen Display 3d" set to ON.
    
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One physical unit with 2 gpus..it runs xfired out the box. And not every 5970 is a true dual 5870 iirc.

Dual 460s may not run at the same level...but they also cost much less and dont suffer microstuttering. Love it when ati fanboys throw 5970s at single gpu nvidias.

Metro 2033 can make a 580 run for cover...especially when youve got that resolution and aa up there...im not surprised a single 470 cant run it smoothly at high settings.
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He was talking about 460's oced 215MHz.

And the 5970 is basically two downclocked 5870's.
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Isnt the 5970 2 5850's?
    
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He was talking about 460's oced 155MHz.

And the 5970 is basically two downclocked 5870's.
Fixed. Unless you're talking about mine, then were talkin 200mhz OC, which isn't too bad.
For clarification: 675 is stock for a 460.

And asus IMPLIES that a 5870 is really just two castrated 1gb 5870s. That's why they made the Ares and claimed it as "Two True" 2gb 5870s on one pcb. I'd actually consider the gpu cores on the 5970 to be 5850s if anything.
     
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Which bench you referring to? Tweaktown will show you how superior the 460s are. OCed like hell? Very average OC man 830, 900+ gets on the crazy lines.
Again You didn't really refute anything, and haven't provided any evidence to support any of your non existent claims. I provided 3 different data sources so you couldn't tout that I was showing only one favorable site like HardOCP, which btw I couldn't shown but people have told me that data I'd fraudulent. 460sli stock somewhat near 5970.
OC 460sli = 5970.
NEW 460 1gb sli = $360-400
5970 USED on eBay = $430-500

I close this arguement on my side. Final remarks: PWNED.

And have you not seen the Ares or the xfx black edition 4gb 5970? Both are ~$1000+
Omega I've lost -5 respect points for you . You make me not want to keep that quote of you in my sig. I really quite respect you, you're a cool member.
Aww don't get mad bud, I was just messin with ya. Being a little sarcastic, my apologies.

What I was eluding to was that comparing 2 OC'd cards, to a non OC'd card(s), is kind of silly don't you think? That'd be like comparing a suped up car to a stock one --what's the point?

And regarding the OC, what I meant by it being a pretty hardcore overclock is not what they average but in comparison to most other GPUs'. Typically, you can not extract a 30%+ overclock from a GPU without some serious cooling and volt modding. Last ones that I've seen that could easily do that was, believe it or not, 9600GSO's.

And yes, I've seen the 4gb cards, and they're only advantageous at really high resolutions i.e. multiple monitors.


Also, we're mainly talking about Metro 2033 @ 1080p. Which the 5970 does, in fact, beat out even SLI'd 460's. As is evidenced by what you've even linked
.

And since that one is a tad outdated, why don't we look at something a wee bit more recent.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...gb-review.html

As you can see, the 460, at stock clocks, trades blows with, but is usually beaten by, the 5850. Hell, even the 5830 beats it sometimes.


At any rate, for $400 you could have 2 5870's, and beat both the 460's and the 5970.
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Aww don't get mad bud, I was just messin with ya. Being a little sarcastic, my apologies.

What I was eluding to was that comparing 2 OC'd cards, to a non OC'd card(s), is kind of silly don't you think? That'd be like comparing a suped up car to a stock one --what's the point?

And regarding the OC, what I meant by it being a pretty hardcore overclock is not what they average but in comparison to most other GPUs'. Typically, you can not extract a 30%+ overclock from a GPU without some serious cooling and volt modding. Last ones that I've seen that could easily do that was, believe it or not, 9600GSO's.

And yes, I've seen the 4gb cards, and they're only advantageous at really high resolutions i.e. multiple monitors.


Also, we're mainly talking about Metro 2033 @ 1080p. Which the 5970 does, in fact, beat out even SLI'd 460's. As is evidenced by what you've even linked
.

And since that one is a tad outdated, why don't we look at something a wee bit more recent.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...gb-review.html

As you can see, the 460, at stock clocks, trades blows with, but is usually beaten by, the 5850. Hell, even the 5830 beats it sometimes.


At any rate, for $400 you could have 2 5870's, and beat both the 460's and the 5970.
+2000 respect. Very nice sir, I agree with everything your saying. Nice analogy with the car. In terms of metro, no doubt the 5970 beats everything!
Also, WHERE DO YOU GET A PAIR OF 5870s FOR $200???????? I WANT. SO MUCH. WILL SELL 460s.
     
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poorly optimized game.
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+2000 respect. Very nice sir, I agree with everything your saying. Nice analogy with the car. In terms of metro, no doubt the 5970 beats everything!
Also, WHERE DO YOU GET A PAIR OF 5870s FOR $200???????? I WANT. SO MUCH. WILL SELL 460s.
I saw them on newegg's site not too long ago. They were stock clock Sapphire's and even came with Mafia II and something else. Wasn't too long ago actually. Just gotta keep your eye's peeled for the deals.
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Was that with physx on or off?

EDIT: Do our official benchmark thread use physx or nah?
    
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