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Sorry about that. I would actually give you the rep but I don't have any, how does that work? I O U 1 rep when I get it:-) Yeah I've pretty much topped out on the RAM modules, maybe overkill right now, but it gives me head room for the future. I have input the settings you posted in the xls file you posted. I did it in the AI suite that was on my motherboard driver disk and it doesn't seem to have affected anything, but my main goal is to get my head around all this terminology and you've helped me in that. I bought the HDD's with a raid in mind. Do I need an even number of disks for the required RAID and if so, would you recommend SSD or a 10000 RPM sata?
I'm not real familiar with RAID configurations, but I would definitely go with a SSD. It will be much faster than any HDD but at a much steeper price.
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Go with a smaller SSD 80GB + for boot and host the CS5 application.
Gives you fast system and application boot time.

RAID the HDD drives for your work and a proper backup and you are set.
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Sorry about that. I would actually give you the rep but I don't have any, how does that work? I O U 1 rep when I get it:-) Yeah I've pretty much topped out on the RAM modules, maybe overkill right now, but it gives me head room for the future. I have input the settings you posted in the xls file you posted. I did it in the AI suite that was on my motherboard driver disk and it doesn't seem to have affected anything, but my main goal is to get my head around all this terminology and you've helped me in that. I bought the HDD's with a raid in mind. Do I need an even number of disks for the required RAID and if so, would you recommend SSD or a 10000 RPM sata?

Alright you're attempting to process a lot at once, and thats good!

Ok the AI suite you used probably has a commit button it so that your computer can restart and commit the changes. However, the real way to do it, if you want to be safe, is from the BIOS. This allows you to configure your computer before actually Booting up preventing harm to your files and hardware.
Furthermore the voltages i gave you to tweak SHOULD have required a restart on commitment because your system needs to now cope with the more voltages etc (this is achieved by "save changes and restart/exit in your BIOS after changing the settings.)
Unfortunately, the only way you can really begin getting the hang of overclocking and how your system reacts to settings is by painstakingly trying out each one.

Remember that once you commit to a setting and it APPEARS to be stable, you must run a stress test that maxes out all your cores to determine that it is indeed stable. I would recommend Prime95, with 8 threads running for about 3-4 hours before deeming a mild overclock stable. Without this, you risk a BSOD in the middle of your work losing valuable data. If your system is not stable it will either freeze/hang or BSOD in which case you will have to tweak settings, you can post back here for help or start a thread of your own to help you our on that leg of your computer.


Now with your RAID...There is a concise nice article here Explaining the different types of RAID and how many disks are needed.
So, when choosing a RAID type, what you must answer is whether you need the array purely for performance or whether you need the array for Storage(long term).
Generally RAID 0 is reserved for those who only want high performance from their drives and not redundancy(safety) as there is no fail safe, when using 2 drives your reliability is theoretically reduced to half.

RAID 1= mirror where two drives mirrors of each.

The rest are in the article. If you are looking for a combination of both speed and reliability, then i would suggest either a RAID 5 or 10 depending on the number of drives you physically have with you.

Lastly, if you can afford it, i'd say go with the SSD because of their ridiculous access times. But if money is an issue then yes a 10k or even a 15k SATA 3 drive would serve you well.


Hope you found this helpful.




P.s You don't HAVE to rep each post(but i''m not complaining if you do thanks!)
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I bought the HDD's with a raid in mind. I have 4 WD black and was thinking of getting the system going with a 4 disk basic set up and then in the future, buying either an SSD or 10,000 rpm sata. Do I need an even number of disks for the required RAID? and if so, would you recommend SSD or a 10,000 RPM sata?
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I bought the HDD's with a raid in mind. I have 4 WD black and was thinking of getting the system going with a 4 disk basic set up and then in the future, buying either an SSD or 10,000 rpm sata. Do I need an even number of disks for the required RAID? and if so, would you recommend SSD or a 10,000 RPM sata?
lol perhaps you should my previous post. It answers all your questions. Although you could still tell us what you're going to be using the hard drives for.
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I've only just noticed the second page of this thread (I didn't choose my screen name by accident :-)

Right so ssd is definitely the consensus. That's a mid term concern really, but it's good to know.

I reset the AI module as a friend informed me about the strain OC puts on your hardware. I'm not desperate to achieve awesome stats, so I'm going to have a good look at everything you and others have suggested and OC my other computers first, then come back to my main rig. I think were I will probably do the most tweaking is the RAM modules, as my software seems to eat it up.

Currently I have:

c/ O/S & programs.
d/ Media.
e/ Cache & pagefile.
f/ Preview & export.

By summer, I will have purchased an SSD and will consolidate the SATA drives into a raid. My array would be purely with performance in mind, as I have external drives for storage.

You deserve all the rep I can give you, Razultull. Thank you for your time and effort.
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I've only just noticed the second page of this thread (I didn't choose my screen name by accident :-)

Right so ssd is definitely the consensus. That's a mid term concern really, but it's good to know.

I reset the AI module as a friend informed me about the strain OC puts on your hardware. I'm not desperate to achieve awesome stats, so I'm going to have a good look at everything you and others have suggested and OC my other computers first, then come back to my main rig. I think were I will probably do the most tweaking is the RAM modules, as my software seems to eat it up.

Currently I have:

c/ O/S & programs.
d/ Media.
e/ Cache & pagefile.
f/ Preview & export.

By summer, I will have purchased an SSD and will consolidate the SATA drives into a raid. My array would be purely with performance in mind, as I have external drives for storage.

You deserve all the rep I can give you, Razultull. Thank you for your time and effort.
Hey i'm glad you are learning!

OC'ing doesn't really strain your hardware unless you plan on going to very high levels where you need extreme cooling etc. The only obstacle to OC'ing is heat. But the settings i provided you with are minimal Overclocking settings unlikely to really impact your hardware. Furthermore there has been no known connection between OC'ing and messing up your CPU other than the heat generated. Since you have an H70 you should have no problem if you were to go even up to 4.3Ghz.


Regarding your RAM, OC'ing your RAM is unlikely to yield results that are visible to you and what you're doing. Eating up RAM is something that can only be countered by investing in moire of it. The faster rates in Mhz are minimal advances and are more enthusiast based than anything.


Since you are going to be using the 4 drives for performance solely, RAID 0 would be an awesome choice for you. The speeds you will experience when transferring files and accessing will be quite favorable for you.

Keep us updated on how it goes
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I've only just noticed the second page of this thread (I didn't choose my screen name by accident :-)

Right so ssd is definitely the consensus. That's a mid term concern really, but it's good to know.

I reset the AI module as a friend informed me about the strain OC puts on your hardware. I'm not desperate to achieve awesome stats, so I'm going to have a good look at everything you and others have suggested and OC my other computers first, then come back to my main rig. I think were I will probably do the most tweaking is the RAM modules, as my software seems to eat it up.

Currently I have:

c/ O/S & programs.
d/ Media.
e/ Cache & pagefile.
f/ Preview & export.

By summer, I will have purchased an SSD and will consolidate the SATA drives into a raid. My array would be purely with performance in mind, as I have external drives for storage.

You deserve all the rep I can give you, Razultull. Thank you for your time and effort.
If you get an SSD there are a few things you may wish to change. I got rid of my pagefile, and cache (although I believe some programs/games could be inadvertently affected by turning off your cache). There were some other tweaks also but I lost the link to the guide.

As Raz has already said, speeding up your ram isn't going to help much if your system is using up most of your ram. Have you disabled any services or processes that are using up your ram? If you are able to you can buy 2 more sticks of ram to double your memory.
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If you get an SSD there are a few things you may wish to change. I got rid of my pagefile, and cache (although I believe some programs/games could be inadvertently affected by turning off your cache). There were some other tweaks also but I lost the link to the guide.

As Raz has already said, speeding up your ram isn't going to help much if your system is using up most of your ram. Have you disabled any services or processes that are using up your ram? If you are able to you can buy 2 more sticks of ram to double your memory.
Dude.. He already filled up all of his motherboard's RAM slots with 4 GB dimms.. How can he add more??
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Dude.. He already filled up all of his motherboard's RAM slots with 4 GB dimms.. How can he add more??
I did not notice the "x6" on his RAM in his sig. Honest mistake
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