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Hey everyone, im new to the site here and I gotta say, from first look I really enjoy flipping through all the threads.

Well, so I have decided to build my first custom computer. This is after owning an HP desktop for close to 8 years. I have done hours and days of homework on everything I want and will be getting. I was wondering if you guys could go through a list of hardware and give me some opinions and thoughts on my selections. Ill be using it for school work, as well as general purpose putzing around.(i.e web browsing, photos, music, movies, medium gaming, etc.)

Now I am on a bit of a budget so cost was a factor as well.

Case: Thermaltake v3
PSU: Ultra LSP 650
Optical: ASUS 24x dvd burner
Mobo: ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO USB 3
CPU: AMD Phenom ll x4 955 black edition
GPU: EVGA Geforce GTS 450.
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500G
RAM: It will be one of the following, havent decided yet on the memory...

http://www.compusa.com/applications/...465&CatId=4524

http://www.compusa.com/applications/...614&CatId=4524

I will also be getting a fan controller becasue I will have more cooling fans then the motherboard has fan headers.

Does anyone have any suggestions on a good fan controller under 50 dollars? Also What do you guys think about the memory? good choices? Or would you go with something bette? Also looking to stay around the 50-80$ range.

And one last thing... wiht the graphics card. They have the FPB version, which to my knowledge is their base model and the SC(Superclocked version). Is there a big difference in performance between the two? Is it worth getting the factory OC'd card? Can I OC the base version safely? Or are the factory OC'd version suppose to be more stable or something?

So any thoughts, answers or comments are more than welcome. Let me know!


Thanks!
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post #2 of 20
Here you go:
First off, just say NO! to generic 1333 1.65v ram. Second, no on the ultra lsp psu (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/27...8-ultra-lsp650). Couldn't find any tests on it, but based on the 38A 12V rating, no better than a standard (generic) 550W unit.

Are you stuck with compusa as your supplier? Prices are high for generic stuff. Much better off with Newegg, amazon, buy.com.

Here is a much better build that I put together yesterday. Should be cheaper and perform better.
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-11121096-L05A $40 shipped
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131402 $84 shipped after $15 mir
CPU/cooler combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.593267 $143 shipped (this is a 95W C3 cpu)
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185 $65 shipped (will spank the wd caviar)
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820104203 $35 shipped after $15 mir
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-17371031-L07A $50 shipped after $10 mir (slightly overkill for a single 5770 and a quad core, but can't beat the price)
Optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118039 $17 shipped
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161338 $100 after $30 mir

New total = $534 after $70 in rebates ($604 + tax before rebates)

Edit: Forgot you wanted a fan controller: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-005-_-Product $27 shipped
Edited by Badwrench - 2/2/11 at 10:56am
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post #3 of 20
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well, with the psu I went it becasue I have used them in the past with no problems, and they have a lifetime warranty which I like. I also was thinking of going for the lsp 750 instead but wasnt sure if i needed the extra power. I like the ultras, I know they arent the best out there but ive had good experiences and the warranty is awsome.

as for the mobo, I was actually looking at the 79xtd evo before the 88td-v. What makes the 79 better than the 88?

video card I would like to go the nvidia route. experienced problems with ati on friends' computers and i more so prefer nvidia to be honest.

as for being limited to comp usa. I linked to comp usa becasue thats where I found the ram and its the closest to my house. But I can go with frys, microcenter, and comp usa/tiger direct. I would prefer to buy things in stores as if there was anything wrong with the parts its easier for me to drive down and exchange as apposed to ship and wait for return shipment. And when it comes to prices, All the places do price matching with the lowest price available.
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post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
as for the prices for the parts, here is what they will cost me with lowest price matching:


Case: Thermaltake v3-----39.99 -$10 MIR
PSU: Ultra LSP 650-------54.99 LSP 750-----74.99
Optical: ASUS 24x dvd burner-----19.99 Sony Optiarc----19.99
Mobo: ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO USB 3-----113.99 -$10 MIR
CPU: AMD Phenom ll x4 955 black edition-----129.99
GPU: EVGA Geforce GTS 450 Superclocked.------139.99 -$30 MIR FPB version= 119 -$25 MIR
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500G-----54.99

and the fan controll is 30.00 as well.
Edited by mwl5apv - 2/2/11 at 11:47am
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post #5 of 20
The gts 450 is a great choice.I wouldn't buy an ultra psu.Antec would probably be better and you could get one(650 watt) on sale for less money.Everything else looks great,but I would save some dough and go with an i3/1156 mobo.
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OCZ VERTEX 2 50GB SSD/WD 500GB Blue/WD640GB Black Samsung DVD/RW Corsair H-50 Windows 10 home 64 Bit Retail 
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post #6 of 20
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can i ask what makes ultra psu's so inferior? I mean I have read reviews from all over the place that point towards them being decent supplies. Was I missing something?( I dont mean to be a smartass or anything here, its sincere curiosity)

and how does this psu look?

http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0348767

and would anyone happen to know the differences between the gts450 fpb and sc? is it a big difference? How well will the fpb perform anyway? is it worth the extra money for the difference in clocking?

EDIT:
also I am not planning on doing any type of hardcore upgrading in the future either. Only running 1 graphics card, not planning on overclocking the cpu or ram or anything really. Im not that hardcore into pc's to be honest( no disrespect to anyone) Mainly looking to build something up that will last me another set of years.
Edited by mwl5apv - 2/2/11 at 12:05pm
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post #7 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by mwl5apv View Post
can i ask what makes ultra psu's so inferior? I mean I have read reviews from all over the place that point towards them being decent supplies. Was I missing something?( I dont mean to be a smartass or anything here, its sincere curiosity)
If you want to know why they get a bad rep, go on Jonnyguru or hardocp and read the Ultra reviews. In fact, I'd check those places out for reviews on any PSU you are looking at. Their testing methods are much more legit than many out there. There is also this guide by our very own Tator Tot to help you on your way. Hopefully, between those places you find a solid unit that fits your budget.
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post #8 of 20
Both cases of generic RAM are ripoffs, especially the OCZ Gold one aka the worst DDR3 kit on the planet, and not just for the rated speeds/timings. The RAM in badwrench's suggestion is a full $10 cheaper after rebate and will OC guaranteed to 1600 8-8-8, possibly to 1600 7-8-7. Never ever buy generic RAM for a custom built because you have a better choice that usually ends up being cheaper.

Everything in badwrench's suggestion looks really good and comes at a great price
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
Both cases of generic RAM are ripoffs, especially the OCZ Gold one aka the worst DDR3 kit on the planet, and not just for the rated speeds/timings. The RAM in badwrench's suggestion is a full $10 cheaper after rebate and will OC guaranteed to 1600 8-8-8, possibly to 1600 7-8-7. Never ever buy generic RAM for a custom built because you have a better choice that usually ends up being cheaper.

Everything in badwrench's suggestion looks really good and comes at a great price
Thanks! I do a lot of these and have gotten quite good at keeping up with the best deals for the best parts. (I am even checking NCIX ).

Op: Do what Songofstorms said and check out Jonnyguru.com. The Ultras are pretty bad - that's why they have a lifetime warranty. There are a few that are decent (1000W), but for the most part generic, overrated (wattage), with cheap caps. That antec isnt bad, but you pay more for the fact that it says "gamer" in the name.
If looking at Microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0301547 $45 after mir. This one is actually pretty goodl. Plus it is modular.
Test: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid...e=expert&pid=8
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1TB Samsung F3 Samsung 840 250GB LG external DVD/R 212 evo 
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samsung 840 samsung  Thermaltake water 3.0 win7 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
viewsonic 27" Cooler master qfr cooler master 700 corsair 250d 
MouseMouse PadAudio
anker vertical ocz sony 5.25" bookshelfs 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
960t M4A89GTD-proUSB3 pny 660Ti samsung wonder ram 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
1TB Samsung F3 Samsung 840 250GB LG external DVD/R 212 evo 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 ViewSonic ViewSonic VX2739wm model m Cooler Master Silent Pro 700 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Lian Li A05FNB (flipped to A05NB) Razer Deathadder Black edt. OCZ behemoth Audio Technica ATH-AD500 
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post #10 of 20
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alright, well i guess ill be looking for a new psu then Now, ehat is the difference between a psu with a single 12v rail and psu's with more than one? I know the obvious... 1 has a single and the other has multiple, but whats the difference between both? Does one offer more power? Cleaner power? Is 1 better than the other?
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Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ASUS 24x DVD RW Corsair H80i Windows 7 64-bit LG 24MP56HQ-P IPS 
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Plextor M5S 128Gb(OS) Plextor M5S 256Gb(RAID0) Plextor M5S 256Gb(RAID0) Western Digital Cavair Green 2Tb 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
ASUS 24x DVD RW Corsair H80i Windows 7 64-bit LG 24MP56HQ-P IPS 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung SyncMaster B2230 Corsair K70 Corsair TX650 V2 Cooler Master CM Storm Trooper 
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