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Sorry, but in a world where my favorite SP games have given me hundreds of hours of gameplay and cost as much or less than new titles, length is relevant.

I would enjoy a 2ounce, $60 filet mignon, I'm sure. But if I can get a decent 12oz steak, a potato, 2 beers and a desert for the same cost, I'm going to call the 2ounce filet overpriced.

We are paying for entertainment, and unless the quality of entertainment is staggering, there had better be an amount of it on par with other titles that I pay the same amount for. Otherwise I have grounds for grumbling.

If you want people to pay a $60 premium, you have to establish the value and the length that you will be entertained is part of that equation.

Yeah?
Edited by _02 - 2/2/11 at 10:40am
    
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Originally Posted by _02 View Post
Sorry, but in a world where my favorite SP games have given me hundreds of hours of gameplay and cost as much or less than new titles, length is relevant.

We aren't paying for impressions, we are paying for entertainment, and unless the quality of entertainment is staggering, there had better be an amount of it on par with other titles that I pay the same amount for. Otherwise I have grounds for grumbling.

Yeah?
Ok, screw any other game. CSS has given me over 1800 hours of enjoyment. Clearly all games are inferior.

Your argument is flawed, whether or not you purchase it is your own decision, but there are a lot of factors. Single player games don't have the replay value of multiplayer games generally. You play a single player game for the story and how it is presented and unfolds. You play a multiplayer game.. Well a lot. That is because you want to beat other players..

Just.. ugh..
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Sorry Mister puppet I'll complain whenever i want about whatever i want, theres nothing you can do about it. So go ahead ang join the corporate crusade I'll be waiting on the Battlefield with a free copies of Paint and Wordpad.
 
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post #14 of 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by _02 View Post
Sorry, but in a world where my favorite SP games have given me hundreds of hours of gameplay and cost as much or less than new titles, length is relevant.

I would enjoy a 2ounce, $60 filet mignon, I'm sure. But I want a meal for $60.

We are paying for entertainment, and unless the quality of entertainment is staggering, there had better be an amount of it on par with other titles that I pay the same amount for. Otherwise I have grounds for grumbling.

Yeah?
Sort of. Your entertainment is different to my entertainment, so in that sense we will never succeed.

I don't care how long a game is as long as it is awesome. Deus Ex Invisible War took me 8 hours and I thoroughly enjoyed it, likewise Dues Ex took me 32 hours and I thoroughly enjoyed that too.

10 hours is a good length for a game with a single player component in my opinion. Well, for any kind of single player component that isn't an RPG. After that the story would tend to drag on too much. I think everyone tends to compare RPG longevity to other classes now, and it just can't be done.
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Ok, screw any other game. CSS has given me over 1800 hours of enjoyment. Clearly all games are inferior.

Your argument is flawed, whether or not you purchase it is your own decision, but there are a lot of factors. Single player games don't have the replay value of multiplayer games generally. You play a single player game for the story and how it is presented and unfolds. You play a multiplayer game.. Well a lot. That is because you want to beat other players..

Just.. ugh..
I was talking about SP, Jumpy Mc Guns.

I'm saying length is relevant.
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Awwww how cute... he used the "lol what is this middle school?" comparison.

$60 for an 8 hour game IS a ripoff for a PC game when the developer pays no licensing rights like they do on consoles, which is why CONSOLE games rightfully increased to $60. Valve. Now that's a developer with the right mindset. $30 for HL2, Episode 1, Episode 2, Portal, and TF2. Easily the greatest value in gaming history with about a few hundred hours (thousands if you really like TF2) of total gameplay worth. I don't see Valve whining about piracy.
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8 hours is far too short for a game without a good multiplayer. It doesn't mean I can't enjoy the game, but it definitely means I'm waiting for the bargain bin/used prices before even considering a purchase.

When games like Demon Souls net me over 100 hours in a largely SP experience, there's no reason to accept such short/rushed campaigns. I'm looking at you, Uncharted 2/God of War 3. Both entertaining games that I enjoyed playing.. and both embarrassingly short.
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post #18 of 144
Complete rip off at $60 dollars.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lelouch View Post
Hmm.. $60 for 8 hours.. $7.5 an hour, which is better than most movies theaters..
Last movie I saw in theaters was 300, and I only went because someone else paid.

Movies are a rip off too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyNikel View Post
But at the end of the day, I just want to have fun regardless of length.
I want to have the most fun possible, for the longest period possible.

60 dollars can buy me hundreds of hours of entertainment of quality higher than Mafia II.

I can get three good games off of GoG.com and 2,000 pages of good books, or at least two knives, for 60 dollars.

Quote:
Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
I think everyone tends to compare RPG longevity to other classes now, and it just can't be done.
RPGs and sandbox shooters are pretty much the only single player games I play.
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This new emphasis on length over quality smacks of middle school essay requirements, where your word count was more crucial than your writing ability.
I have never heard anyone insinuate that length is more crucial than quality. He's just on a middle school rant. It is that it is equally crucial. 8 hours is too short, and I was disappointed when Mafia 2 abruptly came to an end. They had plenty of time to make the game, and it could have been much better.

I'm not saying I will not buy a purportedly great game if it is 8 hours long, I am just less apt to. There are plenty of great games on the market these days.
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Sounds like the writer is one of those guys that bought into the whole "size doesn't matter" myth.

In any case, Lately we're lucky to get games with single player that take 8 hours to beat. If people don't complain about it then it will only get worse, and we'll be getting more games that are under 4 hours, like CoD.
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