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Hello all. I am going to be doing a water cooling project on my computer. I'm at a point where I am trying to decide on whether I should get a full waterblock or a processor waterblock on the graphics card. I originally said to myself that I'd want to get a full waterblock because in the end it's simple more effective than the processor block and the ramsinks. But then I questioned the longevity of my 460 GTX. I'm not too knowledgeable on the projected time frame of this card's relevance, so I come to you guys asking....how long do you think before I will have to swap videocards to run some nextgen videogames on my PC?
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The price difference between a full block and a cpu block/vram heatsink shouldn't be that large? I'm guessing $40 at the most? I would go with the full block because a GTX 460 will be fine for at least a year, maybe two. Remember, it's DX 11 capable, and there are not many DX 11 games yet.
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460 is only a midrange gpu even now. Depends on what resolution you want to run at, likely 1920 x 1080 at least. I would expect the card to play most games for another 1-2 years pretty good. If you have the option of sli then it might be worth doing that.

Hard to recommend what to do. I don't really think it would be worth it to WC that card. High end cards seem to last about 3 years with games comfortably, and they would be worth cooling and doubling up on.
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460 is only a midrange gpu even now. Depends on what resolution you want to run at, likely 1920 x 1080 at least. I would expect the card to play most games for another 1-2 years pretty good. If you have the option of sli then it might be worth doing that.

Hard to recommend what to do. I don't really think it would be worth it to WC that card. High end cards seem to last about 3 years with games comfortably, and they would be worth cooling and doubling up on.
Wait, you would double up and watercool a higher end card before you water cool a mid range card? I don't know if I am making sense here, but here goes. A higher end card would run games smoother and more efficiently than mid range card. Water cooling a midrange card might be more beneficial than cooling a higher range card that was built to handle what people throw at it right? A lower tier card would need all the help it can get to even try to keep up with the upper tier cards. Especially if I plan on OCing the 460.

Also, wouldn't doubling up on vid cards lower the workload on a computer as a whole when it comes to processing for games? This lowering the need for a water cooling solution?

I'm a newb here so help me understand the concept.
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What kind of temps are you seeing here that you feel the need to watercool in the first place?

My 460s are both the reference style, both are the "superclocked" (763mhz) variants, and neither go above 70 C while gaming. They're extremely quiet to boot.

I'm wondering what you hope to gain by WCing them?
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What kind of temps are you seeing here that you feel the need to watercool in the first place?

My 460s are both the reference style, both are the "superclocked" (763mhz) variants, and neither go above 70 C while gaming. They're extremely quiet to boot.

I'm wondering what you hope to gain by WCing them?
I also have the reference model 460. I am water cooling for a couple reasons though. It's a fun project to get into, and it would prolong the life of the card. at this point in time I couldn't tell you what the max temps were. I've never had any problems with the card. But keeping it cooler never hurts. Unless it's too cool to the point of condensation.

EDIT: I also wanted to try my hand at overclocking this card further. I've heard of getting 845 mhz on it.
Edited by CP2 - 2/2/11 at 12:38pm
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I also have the reference model 460. I am water cooling for a couple reasons though. It's a fun project to get into, and it would prolong the life of the card. at this point in time I couldn't tell you what the max temps were. I've never had any problems with the card. But keeping it cooler never hurts. Unless it's too cool to the point of condensation.
Well, if you just want to do it as a project, cool. We all have the same hobby here.

I would invest the money for the Rad, waterblock, pump, etc on a second 460 though. The longevity will far extend one watercooled 460. Just speaking from a practical perspective.

Edit: re clockspeeds. EVGA sold a "FTW" variant clocked at 850mhz stock. Some folks have even hit 900 on other 460s like the Cyclone as well. I haven't tried OCing mine yet.
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^^ Agreed. The rad and pump to watercool your 460 will last for some time. Probably will be able to use them in your next build. I would get the full waterblock and overclock the hell out of your 460 and be happy. When you start playing games that require more horsepower, then get another 460, and watercool it too. 460 SLI is probably equal to the capability of one 580.
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Well, if you just want to do it as a project, cool. We all have the same hobby here.

I would invest the money for the Rad, waterblock, pump, etc on a second 460 though. The longevity will far extend one watercooled 460. Just speaking from a practical perspective.

Edit: re clockspeeds. EVGA sold a "FTW" variant clocked at 850mhz stock. Some folks have even hit 900 on other 460s like the Cyclone as well. I haven't tried OCing mine yet.
A second one huh. Well, I'll look into that and look deeper down into my pockets lol. And yes, I did actually see a 900 mhz clocked card. Which is noice. Are the performance gains really noticeable? Or just slightly? OR is it shown more through the testing?
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The 460 is in the middle of the pack as far as current gen GPUs go, but when you consider how ridiculously powerful all the cards of this generation are, I think even a single 460 can last for quite a while.

If you SLI them, you'll probably be able to max games for years at 1080p.

Ignoring DX11, with the move towards more and more PC titles being console ports, you could probably even get away with an 8/9 series card in any game not named Crysis/Metro.
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