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Is it worth the $100's of dollars you'll spend for a high end card? Is it worth the fact that it will cut your frames in half? Has anyone even seen a noticeable difference between dx11 and dx10 cause I either want to buy another 4870 to run in trifire or just save up and get like 2 gtx 570's..
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Your card is still pretty tough, I don't think it would be worth it for tri-fire. I don't remember that scaling to well, plus that would be upgrading to old tech.

Right now there isn't much of a reason to go for DX11, not to many games take advantage of it, and the ones that do require a good bit of power to max out (generally) You should wait and upgrade later, unless your card is lacking right now...
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I kinda like playing Dirt 2 or Metro 2033 maxed out. It's worth it for me. Not sure if it would be for you. Plus, there are lots of DX11 games coming out sooner than you might think. Crysis 2 being one of them.
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I would chill until 7xxx series comes out. I am RMA'ing my 5850 and i have a gts 250 in, and it runs a lot of game pretty well. You arent missing much visually.
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Totally worth it to me. If you have access to a DX11 card (borrow from friend, etc.) run the Heaven benchmark engine with tesselation on versus off. The visual difference is stunning. With tesselation off, the images (stone path way, corner stones in building, statue in the middle) appears very drab and plain. With tesselation on, those images get a 3D effect. You can see the corner stones protruding out. The statue gets these spikes coming out of it. Everything gets a more vibrant and realistic texture that is very very readily obvious.

All this with the assumption that tesselation is ONLY possible with DX11.
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Totally worth it to me. If you have access to a DX11 card (borrow from friend, etc.) run the Heaven benchmark engine with tesselation on versus off. The visual difference is stunning. With tesselation off, the images (stone path way, corner stones in building, statue in the middle) appears very drab and plain. With tesselation on, those images get a 3D effect. You can see the corner stones protruding out. The statue gets these spikes coming out of it. Everything gets a more vibrant and realistic texture that is very very readily obvious.

All this with the assumption that tesselation is ONLY possible with DX11.
Yes, but for some reason its only noticeable in heaven 2.1, but in gameplay so far there is almost no visual difference
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Is it worth the $100's of dollars you'll spend for a high end card? Is it worth the fact that it will cut your frames in half? Has anyone even seen a noticeable difference between dx11 and dx10 cause I either want to buy another 4870 to run in trifire or just save up and get like 2 gtx 570's..
What do you mean by "..worth the fact it will cut your frames in half?" It hasn't cut my frames at all.. When you also consider the DX11 cards are the fastest available, it makes even less sense.

DX11 has no noticeable FPS hit from DX10. Not sure where you're getting this idea.

My FPS have been fine - with one 460 I never had a problem running games in DX11. With two, I don't have a problem running DX11 games with x8-x16 AA. Notable difference? In some games, yes. That's only going to get more pronounced as newer games are released, specifically for DX11. Battlefield 3 for instance, will be strictly DX11.

Tri Fire has terrible scaling. FWIW.
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Is it worth the $100's of dollars you'll spend for a high end card? Is it worth the fact that it will cut your frames in half? Has anyone even seen a noticeable difference between dx11 and dx10 cause I either want to buy another 4870 to run in trifire or just save up and get like 2 gtx 570's..
Was crossfire worth the hundreds of dollars that you spent on it? The fact of the matter is that DX11 can and does in a few games improve performance performance.

You would be better off with something like a 6950 than 4870 trifire.
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My sig rig is down atm as I am switching out graphics card. Perhaps I should run Metro 2033 with and without DX11 to see if any difference. I am thinking there will be. In Metro 2033, fogs, vapors, shadows are so beautifully rendered. I am thinking those are DX11 features. But I will test it out and see.
At any rate, just the display in Heaven engine shows to me what it is worth. And I am pretty darn sure games are going to start using it more and more. I upgraded recently from GTX 260 SLI to HD 6870 (and soon to HD 6950) and I do not regret that one bit.
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What do you mean by "..worth the fact it will cut your frames in half?" It hasn't cut my frames at all.. When you also consider the DX11 cards are the fastest available, it makes even less sense.

DX11 has no noticeable FPS hit from DX10. Not sure where you're getting this idea.

My FPS have been fine - with one 460 I never had a problem running games in DX11. With two, I don't have a problem running DX11 games with x8-x16 AA. Notable difference? In some games, yes. That's only going to get more pronounced as newer games are released, specifically for DX11. Battlefield 3 for instance, will be strictly DX11.
I can max unigine heaven at 80 fps, with all these dx11 cards, when they max out unigine heaven they only get into the 20-40 fps range... If I was to play metro 2033 in dx10 i would get like 50 fps, if i were to buy a dx11 card and play it in dx11 i would get like 20 fps... Look at the facts before comparing
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