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Hey I'm new to the forums, and am trying to design my first loop (or two). First off, my current build is:

1090T @ 4ghz 1.412v
GTX580 @ 900/1800/2100
HAF-X

Right now, everything is on air. The only thing I have so far is a MCP655. I was thinking of a single loop, something like:

Res > 655 > GPU > 120.1 > CPU > 120.3 > Res

That might be crappy, again I have no clue. Secondly, I'm going to be building a new system later this year and want most of my parts to transfer. New build (most likely).

i7 2600k @ 4.7ghz (seems like the norm)
2x GTX580 SLI
Case up in the air

I'm know I'm going to need 2 loops for that one. Probably like CPU and NB on one and the GPUs on another.

So my questions are:
1) Will a 120.1 and 120.3 with a 655 be enough for my current setup?
2) If not, can I fit a 120.2 in a HAF-X as well as the top mounted 120.3?
3) I'm confused on how FPI and fan RPM affects cooling. Can someone point me to a good link.
4) Feedback on http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11...?tl=g30c97s168 ?

Thanks everyone. These forums are addictive.
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1) Yes
2) HAF-X could fit another 120.2 but only with some heavy modding.
3) More FPI = Better performance with high speed fans - less FPI = better performance with lower speed fans
4) XSPC is a great company and that reservoir is great.

Also, you can run your new rig on one loop no problem, there is no advantage to having dual loops.
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a 360 rad alone is enough for what you currently have
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To fit another 120.2 in your HAF X you would need to remove your HD cage and ditch the PSU cover. It would be a tight fit, but it can fit.
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Alright how does this sound?

Pump: MCP655
Res: XSPC Dual 5.25" D5
Rad 1: XSPC RX360 (120.3)
Rad 2: Black Ice GTX 140.1
CPU Block: EK Supreme HF Rev2 Copper
GPU Block: EK GTX580 Nickel
GPU Backplate: same as above
Fans: Gentle Typhoon 120x25 1850 RPM (don't know how many)

Res>Pump>120.3rad>cpu>140.1rad>GPU>Res

Will that setup be okay if I add another GTX580 to the loop?
Also, in my HAF-X, will I be able to do push-pull on the RX360 internally?
What kind of temps can I expect?
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Looks good, but your radiators are a bit mismatched. The GTX radiator is deigned for high speed fans and the RX radiator is designed for low speed. I would switch the 140mm radiator to the Black Ice SR-1.
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If you're going for the single loop setup in your first post, I'd swap the rads in the loop order.
Res > pump > GPU > 120.3 > CPU > 120.1 > res
Otherwise high temps from the GPU will push CPU temps up.
However, I'd usually go:
res > pump > CPU > GPU > 120.3 > res
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Quote:
Originally Posted by allikat View Post
If you're going for the single loop setup in your first post, I'd swap the rads in the loop order.
Res > pump > GPU > 120.3 > CPU > 120.1 > res
Otherwise high temps from the GPU will push CPU temps up.
However, I'd usually go:
res > pump > CPU > GPU > 120.3 > res
thanks!
if i ran through a 120.1 or 140.1 after the cpu and before the GPU, is it going to bring down the GPU temps enough to justify it? or should i stick with the one 120.3 like you suggested?
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Quote:
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thanks!
if i ran through a 120.1 or 140.1 after the cpu and before the GPU, is it going to bring down the GPU temps enough to justify it? or should i stick with the one 120.3 like you suggested?
Loop order, outside the res before the pump won't do much. The water moves to fast for it to really matter where the radiators are in the loop.

Having more radiators will bring temps down, but mostly in the top end, since they'll be dissipating the most heat then.

If you're going to just run with one GPU and the CPU then a 360 would be enough.

Though I personally have a 120 and a 360 in there for the same set up. The 120 is actually sitting in the HDD cage.
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