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I hate cell phone companies, until they get down to like 19.95 a month for unlimited talk and txt with nationwide coverage I am not signing any contract.

until then I will use google voice for free txt, skype for 2.99 month unlimited US calling and my dollar a day cricket phone when I need it.
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Heard rumors that Verizon is now throttling their customers that use excess amount of data usage. I think they are scared that the network won't be able to hold the excess load.
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So, I'm guessing they found an AT&T tower, stood under it, and did the speed tests.

I'm about a block away from a tower. When I'm at home, I get 5mbps down and 1mbps up. When I go downtown, where a tower isn't in the line of sight, I go 300kbps down and 50kbps up. Then I got to campus and I can't even get 3G. It's a joke. Sure it's faster, sort of, I guess.

I'd almost rather have a mbit down everywhere I go rather than the occasional 4 or 5 plus mixed with a bit of 300kbps trash and EDGE goodness.
Sucky phone, or just unlucky area. In most areas where I have HSUPA speeds, my phone gets consistently just under 3mbps down, and over 1mbps up.

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Originally Posted by bluedevil View Post
ATT is lying about having a high speed 3G network in 96% of America, where I am at and the majority of the country is on the EDGE network, not 3G. Whereas VZW is 3G pretty much everywhere I go, including rural areas, something ATT can't say.

I am just saying that I would rather have reliability over speed any day. I think we are forgetting about actually being able to make a phone call in more places.
Like you've been told already, ATT advertises that they have COVERAGE to 96% of america, not that they offer their 3G speeds to everyone.
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So you all just basically proved that you didn't do your research on the wireless companies before making a wireless provider decision.

If you move, and it's that much of a bother, then change your wireless provider. It's still not their fault. They put maps on their site of where their coverage is. Still not their fault. Blaming a company for not having 3G in your area because you think they should is a stupid assumption and just proves you're missing a critical aspect in logic and reasoning.

And they advertise their coverage in general in 96% of America. Not 3G. You still get Edge where you live, I bet, which is actually competitive with Verizon's 3G speeds. They're not lying when they talk about their coverage, but for you to just assume that they have 3G in that 96% because they say that, just further proves you didn't do research before choosing.
Bolded for funny. I guess holding a company up to what they say they provide is teh herp derp. I gotta tell you, as consumers, we're becoming very, very accepting of this absolutely abhorrent behavior.

Anyway, you are taking this argument to the only place where you can possibly back your statements. Frankly, I think you're just stubbornly trying not to concede these points.

Nonetheless, it is not irrational to expect the service I pay for - an unlimited Data plan - to be provided for and actually function in a major metropolitan market. If Apple and AT&T collectively present a device with a streaming data network, as they have since 2006 or 2007 at this point, that device should work. It should not suffer extensive downtime of the 3G and EDGE networks, as frequently occurs in New York City, and in fact, is occurring right now, as my iphone won't pick up dick in terms of data and hasn't since 7 am this morning. When AT&T goes down, they go f**king down big. None of their **** works at all.
    
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With AT&T you're stuck with a 2GB cap, so even though you're getting 3Mbit you can only use it for 3 hours before you're out of bandwidth.

With Verizon, even at a max download rate of around 125 kb/s you can still pull over 300GB of data.

Both plans cost the same amount. 2GB vs 300GB. Would you like me to make a graph?
Where is this 300gb plan? on verizons own website for the iphone they say this-
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Pricing
Are there minimum service and data pricing requirements when purchasing iPhone 4?

Yes, iPhone customers will need an unlimited data package $29.99 or higher (available for a limited time only).
http://support.vzw.com/faqs/iphone/iphone_faq.html

Not only is it a little more expensive, once the initial rush of iphone users jumps to VZW the unlimited plan sounds like it's going away.
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Bolded for funny. I guess holding a company up to what they say they provide is teh herp derp. I gotta tell you, as consumers, we're becoming very, very accepting of this absolutely abhorrent behavior.

Anyway, you are taking this argument to the only place where you can possibly back your statements. Frankly, I think you're just stubbornly trying not to concede these points.
Ok, are you dense? Their ads never say 3G to 96% of america, they simply say they provide service to that many people. For you to go out and assume something out of such a vague statement is ridiculously ignorant. I'm not even sure what points you wanted him to concede, he was simply correcting someone else.
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wow i would never even think about switching to verizion until they can get atleast the same speed ! your paying the same price per month for HALF the speed



att on the right V on the left
That was taken from a single location. I wonder if that is statistically significant? Also, 30% lower ping from Verizon in that same test.
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That was taken from a single location. I wonder if that is statistically significant? Also, 30% lower ping from Verizon in that same test.
In my area in Ohio, AT&T absolutely annihilates Verizon. Verzion max I can pull is around 2.3-2.4 MBPS. With AT&T I have gotten as high as 4.9 to 5 megabits with AT&T. Ping with the speedtest app on the iPhone is messed up with some tests, as sometimes my home Wifi gets ridiculous numbers like 600 ping when my laptop only gets 17 ping.
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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
With AT&T you're stuck with a 2GB cap, so even though you're getting 3Mbit you can only use it for 3 hours before you're out of bandwidth.

With Verizon, even at a max download rate of around 125 kb/s you can still pull over 300GB of data.

Both plans cost the same amount. 2GB vs 300GB. Would you like me to make a graph?
But you're forgetting that this is a phone. 2GB is alot for a phone unless you're constantly streaming things 24/7 even then most of it is going to be used on WiFi. You'd be surprised if you were to use your phone regularly (at least most people) hitting 2GB is hard.
If you intentionally do things on 3G instead of wifi to see what you can hit, it's not hard to pass the 2GB. But then and only then does it become a problem.

Or, which is a separate case which can't be considered here, is if you jailbreak it and use your phone to tether without buying a plan. But you wouldnt have that problem if you were legit due to tethering plans.

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Originally Posted by Coldnapalm View Post
im grandfathered in on the old unlimited cap for the same price and as long as i keep the contract going so but yes it is true for new comers, and yes id like a graph for the iphone users from 3gs on
Same here.

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That was taken from a single location. I wonder if that is statistically significant? Also, 30% lower ping from Verizon in that same test.
They said in the article that it was taken from different parts of the same building, which is why the time stamps are similar/same. They have varying reception throughout their HQ.

I noticed the ping as well, but we're talking phone here.
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I can confirm the ATnT 3G speeds on my iPhone 4. I use them when I need to get around my Uni's bandwidth cappage. Verizon looks like poop compared to ATnT right now..
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