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Corporate Greed is what holds it down.
     
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The console does not inherently hold back PC games, but there are many factors as to why the existence of consoles (in this market) hinder PC games.

It's much easier to develop for hardware that remains the same. PC hardware changes from user to user, and trying to optimize for different hardware is a lot more work. Consoles are simply an easier alternative. And frankly, console graphics aren't "bad". They're pretty good, and so they have no reason to upgrade since they're still making money. The masses tend not to care about how detailed the textures are, they just want their 1080p gameplay, and that's perfectly fine. They're appealing to the masses, just like a smart business would.


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However... This IDIOTIC piracy issue ...Are PC games pirated??... YES!!!... Are console games also pirated??.. HELL YES!!!

Used to work with a coworker that modded 360 drives to bypass the media check for burned copies of games...IMO most console owners are usually people that are lazy in regards finding a way to pirate a game...but if one can provide a service that will do it for them( like my former co worker) then they will pirate games...Heck the recent PS3 OS hack is another example...
While you are correct that 360/PS3/Wii games get pirated, the numbers are a lot lower than on the PC. Why is that? A few reasons. People who have built the computers that can play modern day games generally have knowledge enough to pirate games. It's easy. You go download it, you open up the game, you install. That information is easily accessible. However, on a console, you have to open up your system and mod it, or do a software mod. It requires a lot less knowledge to get a console (I'm not hating, just stating facts) than it does to get a PC, so that transfers over quite a bit.

But this isn't really a piracy thread, it's a graphics thread.
    
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PC gaming is on the rise again.

With the Big publishers focusing on consoles. The gap is being filled with independent developers and fresh start studios that dont have the money to push into console gaming. They know that working on the PC will allow them to create the game they want, and that they can get all the free marketing they want through internet buzz and free interviews with gaming sites all over the internet. Resulting in new waves of pc gaming. PC gaming always comes in waves, new consoles come out, people clammer over them, hype dies down and the pc becomes the front again.


dont pull the piracy routine. its an over played card and tbh no one knows the numbers, but i can guarantee that console piracy is just as rampant, as modding them is perfectly easy and you can watch do it yourself videos. Pc piracy is about just as complicated.
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I see people turning back to PC gaming soon, console games are getting very same'y.
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Considering Crysis came out when 8800GTX was out so far he have a card that is 4 times as fast GTX480. GTX580 is bearly a improvement. 8800GTX -> GTX280 -> GTX480. By now he should have at least one game that GTX480 should get like 30fps @ high. We dont because game are not demending. We still have only Crysis and Metro.
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Dirt3 is going to be dx11 Designing a designated dx11 game just for the pc is a big project , rather than just porting over the game from the console design .. Dx11 is not a wasteful technology it will be around for a long while , tesselation ..
dirt 2 was dx11
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No. The greed of game production companies brings down PC gaming.
This.

Consoles will only drag down a PC game if the producer allows it to by cutting costs to maximize profits.

Take a good long look at Valve. They produce games for all platforms but do not allow the PC versions of their games to be dragged down by the consoles. Their PC games (who have console versions) are some of the best games of all time.

Now take a good long look at Activision. They produce games for all platforms and cut costs wherever they can. The result is the heap of junk named Call of Duty. The PC version is just as good (if not worse) than the console versions.

It all boils down to the producers, pure and simple.
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Oh son of a ***** not this again
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When the next gen of consoles come out and finally upgrade hardware it will benefit games across the board. Developers always look for money so its reasonable to expect they'll mostly develop for the widest spread and most profitable platforms. The economy sucks so MS and Sony have pushed new consoles down the road another year, right now in their cycle the current consoles are pure profit and they're trying to milk it. They always lose money in the beginning of a new console cycle with new hardware so they keep putting it off. Kinect and Move were gimmick releases to extend the old hardware.

And then there's this:
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Ah, ANOTHER thread.

No, consoles don't hold anything back. Without consoles, gaming would have died 20 years ago. Blame devs, not the hardware.

There's a lot of elitist snobs on this site that claim consoles are the devil. Me? I just game. I find a good game, and play it, regardless of where it is. Hence why I removed "PC Gamer" from my title, I didn't want to be associated with the half-wits around here.
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