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I've actually been going over the same question. Although I don't have experience with either, here's what my research has led me to believe are the pros and cons of each. Possibly people with actual experience with both could correct me if I'm wrong anywhere.

The R3 seems to come more "ready-to-go" than the Antec. The fans it comes with are supposedly pretty quiet, the top is already blocked off, and it comes with a fan controller. The door also has sound absorbing foam on it. The positions of the two intakes both going into the main part of the case I think make it easier to achieve positive pressure than with the P183. And the inside looks pretty nice as well, being solid black with white highlights (though I would have preferred all black personally). Not sure if looks matter too much though as both cases are by default windowless. I also prefer how it has inputs / buttons at the top vs. the side / behind the door.

Of course, it has its faults. It is supposedly built more poorly than the Antec. I hear things about its flimsy / thin casing (like the top of the cage where a fan could go) and thin sound absorbing foam as compared to the P183, as well as rubber grommets being a problem and sometimes filters not fully covering the bottom. It's supposedly less quiet than the P183 because of all this. Most troubling filter wise is the fact that the front ones are attached to any front fans you put in, so it takes more effort to remove and clean them. Finally, a front 5.25" fan controller with knobs would not normally fit because of the close proximity of the door to the case (possibly unless you recessed it into the case).

The P183's pros are that it's very solidly built and uses pretty good absorption materials. It has room in the front for fan controllers with knobs in both 5.25 and 3.5" slots. The bottom is isolated from the main part of the case, which should result in a cooler (and possibly quieter?) PSU / hard-drives. It has removable dust filters in the front and no openings in the bottom, so I think should be easier to clean. The new V3 version also has USB 3.0 in the front, which is nice. I like how it has a mid-mount fan capability where the HD bay acts as a funnel to get air from the front, without obstruction, and blow across the GPU (should be quieter putting a fan there than in the front if silence is a concern as well). I also see it as being a bit more mod-able, as you can remove all of the cages easily.

However, I can see it being more difficult to achieve positive pressure due to one fan mount for the main chamber, and cable management may be a bit more difficult (though I think it can still be pretty good with a bit of planning). The included fans I hear aren't that good noise-wise, so would probably need replacing. And if you're replacing the fans, you also need your own fan controller if you want to control speeds easily. The top also needs to be covered separately if that's what you're looking for. The inside of the door isn't dampened as well. And of course, it's more expensive (unless you're in the US, where if the R3 needs to be shipped from Canada it could be costly).

All in all, I'd say both are good choices, you just have to decide what's important to you. P183 does require more of an investment to make it good though, but I think can be configured to your liking a bit better.

I myself am going to buy the P183. The removable filters are important to me (upgrading from a HAF922, half of my concern is noise and half dust). Also, I'm getting a Seasonic PSU which can stop the fan depending on temperature, so the isolation will be a plus for keeping it quiet as much as possible. If the isolated PSU chamber also serves to dampen noise a bit more, that'll be a plus as I'm planning on soft mounting my Scythe Quiet Drive down there on some foam. I want my system to be as quiet as possible, so the supposed better build quality and quietness is another reason I'm getting it vs. the R3. And in my situation anyway, I can pick up the P183 at a local store vs. having to have the R3 shipped. I also have replacement fans and sound-dampening material, so that being taken care of in the R3 didn't make a difference for me.
    
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I got the P183 aswell, my friend bought the Fractal R3. I can't see why people would not buy the P183 above the R3.

The R3 build quality is imo really bad, people tell me its not that bad but seriously for that price it could/should be alot better:)
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The P183 looks dated.
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Originally Posted by MisterNasty;12375613 
The P183 looks dated.

it is.
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I've got the p183 atm but I'm thinking of switching it out for a fractal R3 when I convert this machine into a server..

Reasons being that if I put a 1.5tb WDGreen in the top slot in the lower HDD rack, the entire case rattles because the HDD touches the top of the drive cage.. And I've had to remove the top fan because it's placement is ridicilous.

As a case it's decent but for a 'silent' case I'm not impressed with it.
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I got the P183 aswell, my friend bought the Fractal R3. I can't see why people would not buy the P183 above the R3.

The R3 build quality is imo really bad, people tell me its not that bad but seriously for that price it could/should be alot better:)


^^ Antec Fanboy alert. or Troll, anyways here's my rant.

anyways I've owned Antec cases and now I moved to the Fractal R3. The build quality is really good, I have not found a single thing that I don't like about it so far.

I don't know what prices you were looking at but the Antec p183 is 160$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129174&cm_re=antec_p183-_-11-129-174-_-Product

The Fractal Define R3 is 115$
http://www.ncixus.com/products/53537/DEFINE-R3-BLACK/Fractal%20Design/

I paid 100$ + 5.99 shipping.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wupah;12383257 
^^ Antec Fanboy alert. or Troll, anyways here's my rant.

anyways I've owned Antec cases and now I moved to the Fractal R3. The build quality is really good, I have not found a single thing that I don't like about it so far.

I don't know what prices you were looking at but the Antec p183 is 160$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129174&cm_re=antec_p183-_-11-129-174-_-Product

The Fractal Define R3 is 115$
http://www.ncixus.com/products/53537/DEFINE-R3-BLACK/Fractal%20Design/

I paid 100$ + 5.99 shipping.

Really? all of my antec's (p182/p183) have fallen apart.
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the quality to a r3 is a lot better than a p183 + r3 looks sexy smile.gif
    
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The R3 looks better, cools better but the build quality is shaky but most of that comes from the horrible rubber grommets that leave a cheap taste in your mouth when they refuse to stay in place.
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