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Originally Posted by LiFTed View Post

I don't see why you people are saying 'avoid 62c' at all costs. It is not the shut off point, because the silicon and other materials can withstand temperatures in excess of 62c. This temperature is more of a temperature at which you should avoid holding it at or exceeding for long periods of time. What I'm trying to say is, if you tick over to 63c, your Phenom won't cause Chernobyl II
I dont think you realize but Intel and AMD use different "Purity" levels on there silicon chips.

Basically Intels chip have more silicon / Other particals then AMDs

This is why AMD Processors become unstable at lower temps. This is also why they degrade faster and should be kept below 62°C

So unless you want your chip to degrade and become unstable quick i wouldn't even let it touch Mid fifties.
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^what's this purity thing? never heard of it..
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Wait, shouldn't core temp be higher than CPU temp?
no my CPU temp are higher than the core temps
i dont know about you
    
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^what's this purity thing? never heard of it..
Ok lets put it like this. (These arent actual numbers)

we both have a 1 square inch block of silicone

One is from intel the other is from amd.

The one from intel will be 90% silicon 10% other stuff

The amd one will be 80% silicon and 20% other stuff.

See?
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I dont think you realize but Intel and AMD use different "Purity" levels on there silicon chips.

Basically Intels chip have more silicon / Other particals then AMDs

This is why AMD Processors become unstable at lower temps. This is also why they degrade faster and should be kept below 62°C

So unless you want your chip to degrade and become unstable quick i wouldn't even let it touch Mid fifties.
Dude. Not trying to be rude or anything, but AMD chips don't degrade any faster than Intel's do. In fact, the whole Phenom lineup can take quite a bit more voltage safely than, say, an i7. 62 degrees is conservative, and isn't even always the max temp (my 1055T 95W has a 71 degree C max temp, for example). People like to run below 55 degrees when overclocking because Phenoms do like the cold, and tend to not OC as well when temps are above 55.

Intel and AMD do, in fact, use different processes to manufacture their CPUs. AMD's use of a low-K dielectric layer in the Phenom II X6s is one reason they can withstand higher voltages safely. But to say one company's product is "purer" than the others isn't really accurate.
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post #36 of 37
they are designed to go up to 90, but to play it safe, amd made the "max" at 62 for thuban.


EDIT: found it:

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/93...out-1090t.html


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I see so many people going back and forth about The X6 and their faulty core temps. Seeing as I own a 1090t i decided to contact amd and ask them what the deal was with with the temps, and my reply was quite astonishing.

Paul~

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I just recently had your email forwarded to my department.

Concerning your question regarding the temperatures with your processor. (1090) the maximum temperature threshold is 62 Celsius which set for the internal die (core) temperature of the chip. The core temperatures have an equational offset to determine temperature which equalizes at about 45 Celsius thus giving you more accurate readings at peak temperatures. The hindrance in this is the sub ambient idle temperature readings you speak of.

The silicon and adhesives used in manufacturing these processors has a peak temperature rating of 97+ Celsius before any form of degradation will take place. The processor also has a thermal shut off safe guard in place that shuts the processor down at 90 Celsius.

The Cpu temperature is read form a sensor embedded within the socket of your motherboard causing about a 7-10 Celsius variance form the actual Cpu temperature, which may be what you are reading about on the net.

You can use an application called AMD overdrive, that will allow you to monitor your temperatures accurately.

As long as your core temperature has not exceeded the high side of the 60 degree mark for extended periods of time you should be ok. 62 degrees holds a generous safety net to begin with.

I hope I was able to answer your questions, If you have any more inquiries don't hesitate to contact us.


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Intel are the one's recalling components at the moment.

Never heard of 1090T's having problems................
Heard of Noobs WITH 1090T having problems yes, just like any chip!
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