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post #11 of 32
Looks like something to do with power management. I have seen a similar issue in the past because ACPI was disabled in the BIOS. I cant remember exactly what its listed as in the BIOS but I would check that to see what your power settings are.

Unfortunately if you dont have any luck there its probably going to be a kernel module or some other driver crashing. As a test you could try to fire up a F14 disk and see if it boots. Fedora runs bleeding edge software so its likely to have the drivers, but maybe you can run an lsmod or something like that and find out what drivers it has should it actually boot.
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post #12 of 32
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Originally Posted by kc-tr View Post
Looks like something to do with power management. I have seen a similar issue in the past because ACPI was disabled in the BIOS. I cant remember exactly what its listed as in the BIOS but I would check that to see what your power settings are.

Unfortunately if you dont have any luck there its probably going to be a kernel module or some other driver crashing. As a test you could try to fire up a F14 disk and see if it boots. Fedora runs bleeding edge software so its likely to have the drivers, but maybe you can run an lsmod or something like that and find out what drivers it has should it actually boot.
Only thing in BIOS was a LAN power saving mode, which i tried both on and off. no luck either way.

Speaking of ACPI though, i have a little quirk in windows 7 as well that might relate to that, my battery meter does not display an estimated time remaing....
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Sorry I cant help you much with windows. The only place I use windows is on my desktop for gaming. Everything else I do is linux, but they do sound related. You could try setting ACPI to off during boot so it wont try to load those drivers.

Here is a post on how to do it from the ubuntu forums. The syntax would remain the same regardless of the OS as long as you are using grub which you should be.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...00&postcount=2
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post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by kc-tr View Post
Sorry I cant help you much with windows. The only place I use windows is on my desktop for gaming. Everything else I do is linux, but they do sound related. You could try setting ACPI to off during boot so it wont try to load those drivers.

Here is a post on how to do it from the ubuntu forums. The syntax would remain the same regardless of the OS as long as you are using grub which you should be.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...00&postcount=2
yup that did the trick, got it installed but now i hit another wall lol. o/s installed fine but when it comes up to that first time setup screen, where you pick your username, date/time etc. My touchpad and keyboard dont work, nor do externals.

Right before that loads i get usb errors, i dont remember the exact message but it was somethhing like

usb 1-1 device not accepting adress 2
same but 3
same but 4
same but 5
usb 2-1 and then this repeats 2-5 and then it gets to the welcome screen i mention above
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Yea more than likely those are all going to be driver / kernel module issues. What do you plan on using linux on your laptop for? If just messing around to learn I would say to use Ubuntu - its going to be easier to get going than CentOS as its designed with desktop / laptop use from the start. CentOS is designed for server use.
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post #16 of 32
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Yea more than likely those are all going to be driver / kernel module issues. What do you plan on using linux on your laptop for? If just messing around to learn I would say to use Ubuntu - its going to be easier to get going than CentOS as its designed with desktop / laptop use from the start. CentOS is designed for server use.
Im doing an independendy study in college and i wanted to gets some hands on experience learning server linux distro's so i picked CentOS. Unfourtunetly the only extra computer the school could let me use was ancient and CentOS ran terribly slow on it and my laptop is much faster so i figured it use that instead.
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post #17 of 32
Quote:
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Im doing an independendy study in college and i wanted to gets some hands on experience learning server linux distro's so i picked CentOS. Unfourtunetly the only extra computer the school could let me use was ancient and CentOS ran terribly slow on it and my laptop is much faster so i figured it use that instead.
you installed a gui didn't you for the ancient machine? hehe.

you can in theory turn any desktop distro into a server, the biggest differences are what options are turned on by default when compiling the kernel, you can install ubuntu desktop and then install the server kernel and its packages

what type of server are you needing to run? an apache server? a file server? a mail server? a dns server? server is a broad field of computers, might be able to help more if i knew exactly what type you are wanting to run.

i use slackware for a apache and file server.
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you installed a gui didn't you for the ancient machine? hehe.

you can in theory turn any desktop distro into a server, the biggest differences are what options are turned on by default when compiling the kernel, you can install ubuntu desktop and then install the server kernel and its packages

what type of server are you needing to run? an apache server? a file server? a mail server? a dns server? server is a broad field of computers, might be able to help more if i knew exactly what type you are wanting to run.

i use slackware for a apache and file server.
unfourtunetly im kinda running blind here, i wanna learn about it but im not sure which would be the most valuable use of my time that i could apply out in the business world when im done
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Well, the only problem is that servers are designed for specific roles and built accordingly. For example if I wanted some sort of storage node I wouldnt need much ram, CPU, or disk space (for the root partition) so I would setup the filesystem and logical volumes slightly different than I would a syslog server or some sort of application server such as one used for hosting some sort of website (LAMP).

Database servers are at the opposite end of that. They require lots of CPU and RAM. However they typically don't require a ton of disk space but do need fast I/O. At any rate I would suggest starting out with a LAMP stack. Typically these are going to be the easiest to setup and they will teach you some of the basics.

With that said if you wanna do it the easy way then once you have CentOS or fedora installed you can use this script to setup and configure the server with a LAMP stack.

Enjoy:

Quote:
#!/bin/bash
#
# File: create-vhost.sh
#
# Written by: Tim Galyean
#
##################################################


LOG=$0.log
HTTPDCONF=/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
VHOSTDIR=/var/www/vhosts
IPTABLES=$(which iptables)

# Perform Initial Setup Tasks
function f_config(){

if [ -n "$(rpm -q httpd)" ]; then

echo "Apache is already installed"

else
setenforce 0 && sed -i 's/SELINUX=enforcing/SELINUX=disabled/g' /etc/sysconfig/selinux
yum -y groupinstall "Web Server" "MySQL Database" "FTP Server"
chkconfig httpd on && chkconfig mysqld on && chkconfig vsftpd on
unlink /etc/httpd/logs
ln -s ${VHOSTDIR}/logs /etc/httpd/logs
mkdir -p ${VHOSTDIR}/logs

(
cat <<'EOF'
NameVirtualHost *:80
NameVirtualHost *:443
EOF
)> /etc/httpd/conf.d/00_vhost.conf

cp /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd_backup

(
cat <<'EOF'
anonymous_enable=NO
local_enable=YES
write_enable=YES
local_umask=022
dirmessage_enable=YES
xferlog_enable=YES
connect_from_port_20=YES
xferlog_std_format=YES
listen=YES
pam_service_name=vsftpd
userlist_enable=YES
tcp_wrappers=YES
pasv_min_port=60000
pasv_max_port=65000
EOF
)> /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf

service vsftpd start
service httpd start || echo "Something is wrong"
${IPTABLES} -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
${IPTABLES} -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT
${IPTABLES} -A INPUT -p tcp -m multiport --dports 60000:65000 -j ACCEPT
echo "Apache/FTP/iptables setup complete.. Configuring MySQL.."
f_mysql
fi
}

# Create New Virtual Host
function f_vhost(){

DOM_U="$(echo ${DOMAIN} | sed 's/\\./_/g')"
VHOSTCONF="${DOM_U}.conf"


if [ -d /var/www/vhosts/${DOMAIN} ] ; then

echo "Domain already exists.. exiting."

exit 0

else

adduser "${DOM_U}" -d ${VHOSTDIR}/${DOMAIN}
echo ${FTPPASS} | passwd --stdin "${DOM_U}"

(
cat <<EOF
<Directory ${VHOSTDIR}/${DOMAIN}>
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
IndexOptions FancyIndexing
AllowOverride All
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>

<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerAdmin root@localhost
DocumentRoot ${VHOSTDIR}/${DOMAIN}
ServerName ${DOMAIN}
ServerAlias ${DOMAIN} www.${DOMAIN}
ErrorLog logs/${DOM_U}.error_log
CustomLog logs/${DOM_U}.access_log common

</VirtualHost>

<VirtualHost *:443>
ServerAdmin root@localhost
DocumentRoot ${VHOSTDIR}/${DOMAIN}
ServerName ${DOMAIN}
ServerAlias ${DOMAIN} www.${DOMAIN}
ErrorLog logs/${DOM_U}.error_log
CustomLog logs/${DOM_U}.access_log common

</VirtualHost>
EOF
)> /etc/httpd/conf.d/${VHOSTCONF}

fi
echo "Customers login credentials are:"
echo "FTP / MySQL User: ${DOM_U}"
echo "Password: ${FTPPASS}"

}

# Setting up MySQL configuration
function f_mysql(){
read -p "Set MySQL root password (should be the same as the server password): " MYSQLPASS
/etc/init.d/mysqld start &> /dev/null
mysqladmin -u root password ${MYSQLPASS}

echo "LAMP stack setup complete"
}

# Create customers user account / domain
function f_createuser() {
read -p "Enter Domain Name: " DOMAIN
read -p "Enter FTP Password: " FTPPASS

LENGTH=`echo ${FTPUSER} | wc -m`

if [ ${LENGTH} -gt "15" ]; then
echo "username is too long..."
f_createuser
else
f_vhost
fi

}

# Exit with success
function f_quit() {
echo "quit" | tee -a ${LOG}
exit 0
}

# Exit with error, log error
function die() {
echo
echo ${1}|tee -a ${LOG}
echo
exit 1
}


# Main Menu
function f_mainmenu() {
clear
echo "#########################################"
echo "# Virtual host Configuration Script #"
echo "# #"
echo "#########################################"

echo "Choose an option:"
CHOICES="Build_Configuration Add_Virtualhost Quit"
select CHOICE in ${CHOICES}
do
case ${CHOICE} in
Build_Configuration)
f_config ${1}
;;
Add_Virtualhost)
f_createuser ${2}
;;
Quit)
f_quit ${4}
;;
*)
echo "Invalid option.. Press Enter to return to the main menu"
;;
esac
done

f_mainmenu

}

# BEGIN MAIN LOOP
f_mainmenu
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post #20 of 32
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ok so i ended up putting linux mint on my laptop. Installed and ran with no issues. CentOS seems to be running ok, abit slow on my "server".

I was thinking maybe a good place to start on the server is creating some various user groups, and then adding some users to these various groups and have set permissions for each. I have a local network setup here with my laptop and server on it currently. I take it i would need to setup a domain server?

sorry if my questions are real noobish, my school didnt really cover any of this and id like to learn as much as possible before i graduate in may
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