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Currently I'm having a lovely time with a crappy as ISP called Florida Cable. For some reason they have started to severely throttle and interrupt my traffic in Linux. Why I don't know. But as soon as I switch over to windows I suddenly don't have a problem going places or doing things. I didn't have problems with Linux before either. Then around Monday last week things went down the tube. Now I can barely visit websites let alone update. When I complained to them their response was "There's a virus going around so the internet is going to be slower. And you should use windows."

What can I do to get my connection back to what it was? And next how do I beat out windows computers on the same wifi connection? I'm tired of every wifi spot when crowded kicking/blocking me from joining.

Should I just learn BackTrack and start seeking revenge? I'm getting damn tired of how anti-Linux the world seems to be.
     
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backtrack is fun and useful... for "pen testing" only though ofc
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Currently I'm having a lovely time with a crappy as ISP called Florida Cable. For some reason they have started to severely throttle and interrupt my traffic in Linux. Why I don't know. But as soon as I switch over to windows I suddenly don't have a problem going places or doing things. I didn't have problems with Linux before either. Then around Monday last week things went down the tube. Now I can barely visit websites let alone update. When I complained to them their response was "There's a virus going around so the internet is going to be slower. And you should use windows."

What can I do to get my connection back to what it was? And next how do I beat out windows computers on the same wifi connection? I'm tired of every wifi spot when crowded kicking/blocking me from joining.

Should I just learn BackTrack and start seeking revenge? I'm getting damn tired of how anti-Linux the world seems to be.
ISP - Talk to a higher tier tech. Use social engineering skilz so you actually get one. Don't demand. Let them know it's a really hi tech problem and you don;t wanna waste their time and they will move you up to minimize their time. You just gotta give em an excuse to save face. They really cannot discriminate against various OpSys because there are so many Linux (and other) servers. However they may require QoS or something and you can work around that once you find out what they're doing that is windoze-centric, if indeed it is on their end.

WiFi - As long as you have a connection with proper authentication you should trounce any windoze connection. If you're getting bumped it could even be idle time but you should try to discover and yes Backtrack has tools that can do that but they are available on any distro. You could even write a script to overcome idle time drops simply by pinging the gateway every 30 seconds or so, or running netstat, or traceroute.

Job 1 - discovery. BTW It is rarely a good idea to run nmap on a hot spot server. They tend to frown on that, but the rest is generally allowed.
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All I know is when I do updates especially through terminal my internet progressively gets slower through the rest of the day. The thing that makes me laugh is that the bandwidth seems not to changes as much as the latency. I'm supposed to be getting 5Mbps which before I look around for updates I do get. But the ping is around 70ms. Later on it starts falling towards 2-3Mbps (often only achieved at speedtest.net) with latencies upward of 120ms. What I don't get is why my little update brings me hell at home.

Then theres the interesting thing in which at home or school on Linux I'm the first one to get kicked or notice a slow down on a wifi network. Is this because I do have the higher priority or something? I honestly know even less about networks than I do about Linux and networks seem even more bizarre to me. Sometimes I feel like I'm missing something on my end but it doesn't explain why everything was fine before.

As for talking to a higher level tech I tried but they are the worst provider in the state of Florida as far as I know and he (the tech on the phone) told me I was talking to that guy (referring to himself).

So it looks like I'll have more to learn this summer beyond just Slackware. At least I'll have something to do that I might enjoy. Who knows. Maybe they'll get their act together because I just heard from a neighbor (same provider) that they're starting to have problems too. I just don't know why it started with me.
     
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linux + networking = awesome

its always good to improve your networking knowledge

what kind of overall set up do you have? college dorm internet? home with your own router? dsl? cable? isp?

are you paying attention to peak hours? cable internet you end up sharing your band width with your neibors so when they get home from work and start surfing pr0n it will ultimately slow your connection down, that is usually a really big problem with cable when they over sell their lines so if some of your neighbors have switched over to the same isp recently, it coulda just pushed it over the edge of what the actual isp hardware could deal with at peak hours

honestly os shouldnt be any problem... if anything, linux should be performing much better than windows the problem could be something stupid like linux is just using your connection to its fullest where windows isnt, so when your connection starts to suck its much much more noticable in linux (random guess)
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At Home: Well right now for most of today it's been better than normal. Though this morning before everyone was up in the neighborhood it was terrible (fast page loading but long latency IE: click and nothing happens as in that it didn't notice I clicked so I have to do it repeatedly but when it does finally load it's fast). It's a home router connected to cable and it was never as bad for as long as it was the last week or two. As for the peak hours with the home setup they would slow down but wouldn't drop out like they had been. I just can't fathom though why it was/possibly will be so picky about me doing updates and downloads in Linux yet seemed much less a problem in Windows. I barely move a GB of data in one day with Linux but would be doing more in Windows. Murphy's Law plagues me with this random crap that doesn't make sense.

At school: Their wifi tends to kick people anyway regardless of network load but I thought it was strange that it occurred more often with me on Linux. Either way I only have to suffer three more months with that one so hopefully the new school I go to I won't have to worry about it. But I still have BackTrack as another distro to tinker with this summer. My brain can't handle it right now.
     
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i remember when my cable company tried something similar to this, that they required all computers that connected to their service, to have at least installed their "ISP package" which include some monitor tools, a firewall, and their rebrand browser IE.

they never included in their documentation when they sent out the disk that this would be for "windows only" it just said for requirments "internet connection, 512 mb ram, 450mhz processor", didn't give any OS specifics, one day i fired up my machine and was unable to connect to the internet, everything checked out fine, but i still was unable, so i called them.

they told me pretty much the same thing "you should be running windows" and i told them, "then send me a copy" and they told me they weren't affilated with windows and would do no such thing, then i told them i would be going to a competitor dsl company and i wished my service to them be terminated all together, including the phone and television, so they needed to transfer me to billing, i was transfered, but to tier 2 tech support, with in 10 minutes, i was running again without running their "software" that the previous tech told me i absolutely needed to connect.

with the internet becoming a "need" more than a "want", companies such as ISP shouldn't have the power to decide which OS they support, they all talk the same when it comes to telecommunication, linux does this better than windows, so you think they would welcome the less overhead.

as for your wifi problem, i doubt it is the school trying to keep you form using linux, it is more than likely the buggy wifi linux drivers, or wifi manager's for linux that is doing it i have similar problems here at home with wifi connectivity on my laptop's and wifi computers dropping connection for no apparent reason.
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lmao must be a pretty useless sub par isp to not support linux right on the surface like that....

considering the internet is a network, and linux is an actual network operating system as apposed to windows, thats kinda funny imo they probably even run linux on their servers and their admins probably run linux on most their stuff lol
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