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Didn't really play the BC2 campaign past the first 10 minutes. I plan on doing so soon.
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again, read the posts before posting. bc1 and bc2 were already made. I'm saying those should've been scrapped for bf3 and bf4
I've read your posts. That would've meant new games in two-year intervals, which seems unnecessary for a game like battlefield. I do agree in wishing that their focus would've been on BF3; however, the games they've made since BF2 are 2142 and the two BC games (I'm not counting the various collaborative works like MoH, NFS, etc.). Until BC2, there weren't large leaps in PC game technology, and the BF3 made then wouldn't have been as impressive. It's opinion-based, so I digress.

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we are talking about the same genre, so the bieber analagy doesn't fly. if you want to talk about the best "pop singers", then yes, bieber is the best. if you want to talk about the best music in general, then that is another story. we are talking about fps war games, not best games in general.
I shuddered reading that; I hope you are still hung on the numbers. There are quite a few better pop artist than Bieber; he doesn't sell because he's "good." You're also missing the point; even if we looked at their genres in particular, Hannah Montana sells extremely well in country, and Bieber sells extremely well in pop. Neither are especially good; they simply appeal to millions of kids. This goes hand-in-hand with my argument.

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It's great DICE is saying they are doing justice to the PC, but they sold out a long time ago to the console with bc1 and bc2. BC2 on the PC outsold the console, so they are running back to the pc with bf3... which i'm saying they should've done long time ago and not made bc1.
I hardly call selling one console-exclusive "selling out." It was an experiment, they saw that it didn't work so well, and developed mainly for the PC again. Besides BF1943, BC1 is the only console-exclusive they've released; it's difficult to blame them for also developing for said consoles.

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you ignoring the numbers just makes any argument against you null. that's like someone saying they couldn't care less about logic or rationality. gg.
False. I'll make another analogy for you: Bose and Monster (most of 'em, like Beats) products have nowhere near the performance that they advertise. They sell because of smart marketing. They make ridiculous profits off of each overpriced product sold. There are plenty of games/products that don't get the attention they deserve; you can't possibly label them as low-quality (or what have you) because they don't sell as well as a more popular product.

I'll admit it was harsh to say that I don't care about numbers, but do you see the point I'm trying to make? Then again, if you're arguing that the latest CoD games are truly well made, you may not.
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I've read your posts. That would've meant new games in two-year intervals, which seems unnecessary for a game like battlefield. I do agree in wishing that their focus would've been on BF3; however, the games they've made since BF2 are 2142 and the two BC games (I'm not counting the various collaborative works like MoH, NFS, etc.). Until BC2, there weren't large leaps in PC game technology, and the BF3 made then wouldn't have been as impressive. It's opinion-based, so I digress.



I shuddered reading that; I hope you are still hung on the numbers. There are quite a few better pop artist than Bieber; he doesn't sell because he's "good." You're also missing the point; even if we looked at their genres in particular, Hannah Montana sells extremely well in country, and Bieber sells extremely well in pop. Neither are especially good; they simply appeal to millions of kids. This goes hand-in-hand with my argument.



I hardly call selling one console-exclusive "selling out." It was an experiment, they saw that it didn't work so well, and developed mainly for the PC again. Besides BF1943, BC1 is the only console-exclusive they've released; it's difficult to blame them for also developing for said consoles.



False. I'll make another analogy for you: Bose and Monster (most of 'em, like Beats) products have nowhere near the performance that they advertise. They sell because of smart marketing. They make ridiculous profits off of each overpriced product sold. There are plenty of games/products that don't get the attention they deserve; you can't possibly label them as low-quality (or what have you) because they don't sell as well as a more popular product.

I'll admit it was harsh to say that I don't care about numbers, but do you see the point I'm trying to make? Then again, if you're arguing that the latest CoD games are truly well made, you may not.
bad company was a huge success for the consoles, which is why they did bad company 2. The PC got bc2 because they are working on getting the engine built for the PC. And he PC team is much smaller than the Console team. PC is about 5-7 guys working on it. It is probably bigger for bf3, but Dice is oriented on consoles now because of EA.
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There's nothing wrong with putting a SP campaign in, especially if it provides a lot of newcomers the ability to get used to doing things they've never done, like flying, commanding, or getting used to the bullet drop mechanics.

You do realize that the entire SP campaign of BC2 was really just making fun of COD, right?
You could still do that in BF2's 'single player' mode.
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Engine demo...but doesn't impress me at all. Looks like they copied cryengine 2/3

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Engine demo...but doesn't impress me at all. Looks like they copied cryengine 2/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXVF...layer_embedded
How can you not be impressed if you compare it to the cryengine? I think it looks awesome, especially the bits after 2:30, but since its approaching photorealism it must be copying crysis.
    
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Engine demo...but doesn't impress me at all. Looks like they copied cryengine 2/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foXVF...layer_embedded
Because you can totally copy something that's not out yet
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Lots of posts here making me cringe with falsehoods and irrational thought... must resist urge to respond to all of them...

I'll just think about something else. I wish Intel would hurry up and get working revisions of their P67 boards out so I can finish this build and play some BF2 and BC2 to tide me over until BF3... D:
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet but: http://www.ea.com/battlefield3 (website up)
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