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My First review (Saitek/Madcatz R.A.T 7)

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Saitek Cyborg R.A.T 7


Here we are my first of hopefully many reviews to you guys, hoping to offer a better opinion of equipment before you purchase.
Today I have the R.A.T 7 in my hand and I am left here wondering "what is it"; of course it's a mouse but did Optimums Prime have a love child with a computer peripheral ?
Well this is what I am hoping to answer today, at fist glance the R.A.T 7 will have you saying that this mouse cannot be that comfortable. My answer is yes it can be, it's entirely up to you.

For this little bugger can be adjusted in :
  • Type and size of palm grips.
  • Swappable pinky grips.
  • Thumb rest is able to be moved in and out also up and down.
  • The unit is weight able, this is most important in gaming.

This is also not to mention what the mouse has in the ways of configurable buttons, and of the sorts.
  • Left and Right click
  • Center click
  • Center scroll wheel
  • Thumb scrol (two way "up/down")
  • Forward and back buttons
  • What I call the bullet time button.
  • Mouse profile button
  • Dpi up and down (Dpi "Dots Per Square Inch")

The performance of this mouse is a sight to behold, the learning curve is next to nothing. The only thing to worry about with this mouse is how are you going to to use it.
The responsiveness is great to the point to move from one side of the desktop to the other can be done in all of 3 inches.
But where it shines is in the games, the inclusion of hair mechanical mouse button switches where it almost to the point of that "if you see it and the impulses to the fingers do the rest in a very quick fashion", another great feature to the the mouse buttons is that you can click the anywhere on the designated button area and it will activate the switch. "Nice"


But with all this greatness comes a downfall and in this device it goes by the name of the "Phillips Twin Eye" which is said to have a z axis tracking issue, which I have yet to find. I find this quite amusing because it doesn't track on the Z axis and only registers X and Y axis.The only real problem that I find with the tracking is if you get a piece of dust trapped in the area of the lens then the mouse becomes a bit sluggish, also if you lift the mouse from the mousing surface the tracking can be lost.
Once this is ironed out by playing with the lens sensitivity this becomes less evident.

The "Smart Technology Software"

The software provided is very well thought out, you have four(4) pages ranging from the welcome to the update and tips page.

Welcome page:




Settings page:



Programming page:




Support page:


To really sum it all up you have three(3) savable profiles and four(4) DPI settings, not to mention the "bullet time button" which adds one(1) more speed setting "which is great for those pesky sniper shots".
So that brings up to a total of five(5) different adjustable speed settings.
I wasn't happy because the savable profiles all used the same DPI settings as the other profiles, so no tailoring profiles to given situations here.
Now we move onto the configurable buttons and scroll wheels, this adds five(5) other dimensions to your games, you of course have the back and forward buttons and the normal scroll wheel but the inclusion of the thumb scroll wheel is pure genius, you can set it up to do anything you want for eg: weapon change, grenade type change, spells what ever you want.

So with all these settings is there a downfall? Yes there is, unlike my old mouse the Logitech G9 you have to have the mouse software installed to take advantage of your profiles. This is a bit of a PITA considering that the G9 profiles can be saved to the mouse unit and can be used on other machines without the need to have the mouse software installed,this I find is a major downfall.

So what do I think? Other than some of the minor annoyances the mouse is very accurate and sensitive to the point you need to turn the sensitivity of the "Phillips Twin Eye" down a bit. The tracking is a bit of problem if you lift the mouse off of the mousing surface or get a piece of dust trapped near the sensor.
But these issues have been evident for a while with other mouse manufactures that use the same lenses like the company Razor for instance, I would of thought that a replacement lens would of been created by now to alleviate this problem.......oh well.

Now we move onto the turkey talking, how much is this unit? Well this is the high end of the corded range of the R.A.T range of mice. This unit can be had in Australia for $150 AU including shipping(not insurance), but if your lucky enough to have a computer shop nearby that will get it for you then it will be cheaper. For the features you get I find that this is a fair asking price, but how to rate it?

If based off of pure features it is the best mouse I have used, if based off of pure performance I find that there are better options for better prices. It's a hard one, so here I go.

Packaging/bundle:
10/10

Features:
10/10

Performance:
8/10

Pro's: The fact you can really shape this mouse to suite you is a feature I have never seen before. The software is intuitive and easy to understand.

Con's: The tracking is a small issue but it is not enough to tarnish what this mouse does offer Price may be a turn off to some users. Not being able to set DPI settings for each profile is a bad batch of grapes.

EDIT: Mouse Lift off is an issue with this mouse but it's not a big issue if you aren't using your mouse as a drum stick or trying to tap the tune of a Ke$ha song on your desk.

All in all I found it to be money well spent, and I would give the complete package four(4) out of five(5) thumbs up.
Edited by smash_mouth01 - 2/7/11 at 6:38am
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Hey man, good job. I got a R.a.t. 7 myself earlier in the week and am liking it so far. Still getting used to more of a claw grip with it though as no matter how i adjust it i can't drape my hand over it like my old MX. But it's a good mouse for sure.
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I had found that for more of a drape kind of feel I had to use the high-rise palm rest and and adjust it 2 notches back.
This gave me the length and the logitech feel of my G9, but at stock the rat 7 is quite a small mouse.

BTW thanks.

Also I have to post this, this video uses a RAZOR mouse but it uses the same sensor as the RAT 7.


Now I tested this out myself and it's a problem, but one thing for sure it's only in extreme cases when you repeatedly do it it becomes an issue.
But in everyday use it's great and in Photoshop I use my mouse more than my tablet and stylus, because it is so smooth.
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I gotta say I've wanted a R.A.T. for a while now but I've held off due to sensor issues but....

Is it only really an issue when lifting the mouse?

I never lift my mouse, and when I do if im not on target anymore I don't find that unacceptable.

I can hold off repositioning until a time where it doesnt matter if im off center.

I am however having CONSTANT issues with my Razer mouse where it non-stop gets garbage like a hair, dust, lint or something near the eye and just completely stops tracking up and down.

sounds like same issue with this mouse :-(
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I gotta say I've wanted a R.A.T. for a while now but I've held off due to sensor issues but....

Is it only really an issue when lifting the mouse?

I never lift my mouse, and when I do if im not on target anymore I don't find that unacceptable.

I can hold off repositioning until a time where it doesnt matter if im off center.

I am however having CONSTANT issues with my Razer mouse where it non-stop gets garbage like a hair, dust, lint or something near the eye and just completely stops tracking up and down.

sounds like same issue with this mouse :-(
Yes the biggest issue is the lifting of the mouse, but in my testing "once I had heard about the issue" it is only in extreme situations where it's a problem like in the video clip.

But that being said I don't know anyone that taps their mouse up and down like that, but in normal circumstances when not trying to show the problem it doesn't cause a problem.

As for the dust issue that is there in the R.A.T 7 but I get around that by having a slightly damp microfiber cloth and wipe the bottom of the mouse and the mouse pad.

But to put it honestly if that is an issue for you a G9X is just what the doctor orded.

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Thanks reaper, it's my first go at it so I am trying to get an idea of how I am going to go about writing reviews.

If you any input or ideas on how I can improve, I am all ears. Thanks again.
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IMO i dont find the Z-axis that big of a problem, To me it sounds like nit-picking but i guess theres alot of people who notice it in game which could get annoying. Overall it still sounds like a nice mouse and the software look VERY user friendly (maybe even a bit too much for me). Im still going to get this mouse, as you can see in my sig. By the way, very nice review, I actualy read it all unlike alot of other reviews.
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Nice I am glad that you took the time.

Also the z axis issue isn't evident when I play UT III, Aliens VS Predator actually I can't spot it at all. If it was there it must of been earlier models because I had a hard time to spot it.

I am glad you got something from it, I thought that I could of gone through the software pages a bit more but as I said it's my first review, I hope to do more soon. Thank you
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IMO i dont find the Z-axis that big of a problem, To me it sounds like nit-picking but i guess theres alot of people who notice it in game which could get annoying. Overall it still sounds like a nice mouse and the software look VERY user friendly (maybe even a bit too much for me). Im still going to get this mouse, as you can see in my sig. By the way, very nice review, I actualy read it all unlike alot of other reviews.
I lift off constantly, and I really don't see how people don't. But then again I apparently use a very low sensitivity.
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The lift off is only an issue when you do it repeatedly in quick succession, but if you lift and move like any normal person then you won't see it.

Like that video I posted, that was a joke. who really does that, except to prove a point?
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