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I'm not saying he should dual boot, I'm saying I can see why Mushroomboy said to, but now he's past the VM based issues there's no real difference other than performance.
you think that... but vm problems are never over lol he will have some huge system failure from something stupid caused by the VM, just wait...
Kinda meh now...
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you think that... but vm problems are never over lol he will have some huge system failure from something stupid caused by the VM, just wait...
Well in this case, I suppose I should never learn something new then, huh? Guess I should just delete it, and forget about it?
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Yeah, I'm having absolutely no issues, whatsoever, with VBox. I know I'm not going to get full performance out of it. Don't want to, it's Linux. I'd never use the full performance in Linux anyway.
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Well in this case, I suppose I should never learn something new then, huh? Guess I should just delete it, and forget about it?
No offense but your attitude towards linux has been negative from the start. Maybe if you took the time to understand what this is all about, took the time to learn why you need to know this, you'd have a better understanding of what we are trying to tell you.

You don't have to learn linux, you don't EVER have to go through life knowing linux. You can always op out and take a different route for everything. I'm sure there are hundreds to thousands of computer tech's and programmers who haven't touched linux.

However, the ones that do have probably taken the time to understand the system. I bet they have also learned and benefited from learning the system outside of just knowing how linux works. It's like learning math, you do it not only to know how to do math but to learn a different style of processing things.

If you go into this negatively you will get nothing good out of it, it's all on how you want to look at this from here on out. Physics teaches us this at the base levels of interaction. Every relationship is a give and take relationship, however some have more choice than others.
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No offense but your attitude towards linux has been negative from the start. Maybe if you took the time to understand what this is all about, took the time to learn why you need to know this, you'd have a better understanding of what we are trying to tell you.

You don't have to learn linux, you don't EVER have to go through life knowing linux. You can always op out and take a different route for everything. I'm sure there are hundreds to thousands of computer tech's and programmers who haven't touched linux.

However, the ones that do have probably taken the time to understand the system. I bet they have also learned and benefited from learning the system outside of just knowing how linux works. It's like learning math, you do it not only to know how to do math but to learn a different style of processing things.

If you go into this negatively you will get nothing good out of it, it's all on how you want to look at this from here on out. Physics teaches us this at the base levels of interaction. Every relationship is a give and take relationship, however some have more choice than others.
If my attitude from Linux was negative from the Start, I wouldn't have even wanted to run it in a VM.

My attitude toward everybody jumping on my case to dual boot IS negative though, yes.

How could I POSSIBLY use the full potential of my system, by browsing the web? I already know Linux couldn't play all of my games. Yes, I know there's Wine. But I'm not going to settle for half assed port jobs to play the games that I've paid for, on a $250 GPU that I paid for. This is why I have Windows...for gaming.

And because of this, this is exactly one of the reasons why I refuse to dual boot. If I want to play a game, I don't want to be hassled with having to reboot to do it. The way it is right now is perfect. I just click a game and play it in Windows. I've got Linux open in the VM otherwise for browsing and chatting and whatnot.

Oh, and I am also on Steam....right now, with Wine. It's a little glitchy, but I'm assuming that its a VM issue.
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Steam is a little glitchy on Windows, too. Hell, I only installed it to show it could be done.
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If my attitude from Linux was negative from the Start, I wouldn't have even wanted to run it in a VM.

My attitude toward everybody jumping on my case to dual boot IS negative though, yes.

How could I POSSIBLY use the full potential of my system, by browsing the web? I already know Linux couldn't play all of my games. Yes, I know there's Wine. But I'm not going to settle for half assed port jobs to play the games that I've paid for, on a $250 GPU that I paid for. This is why I have Windows...for gaming.

And because of this, this is exactly one of the reasons why I refuse to dual boot. If I want to play a game, I don't want to be hassled with having to reboot to do it. The way it is right now is perfect. I just click a game and play it in Windows. I've got Linux open in the VM otherwise for browsing and chatting and whatnot.

Oh, and I am also on Steam....right now, with Wine. It's a little glitchy, but I'm assuming that its a VM issue.
I'm not going to explain what I said any farther, as I do not need to. You think Linux can't use your system to it's full potential, that's fine. When you finally realize what you can do with linux and use your entire system then let us know, I'll be sure to help you then. Until then using a VM will never let you know what you can and can't do, that has to be done in real scenarios.

In fact, you don't even know if your favorite games work or not. Have you even checked? What steam games do you play the most, ones that would require you to constantly reboot?

My point is you don't know until you try, saying you can't IS the negative attitude.
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Can I play GTA IV in Ubuntu without problems? How about BFBC2? L4D2? I've got a HUGE list of games. And if even one didn't work, then that's not acceptable. It's not easy for me to buy stuff being unemployed. So the games that I DO own, I want to be able to play them without issue. I fail to understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

I also paid for Windows 7 Ultimate. Again, I'd prefer to be able to use something that I paid $150 for.

I already KNOW that I WILL have issues playing games. Sure, some might work. But others won't. And to me, that's not worth ditching $150 worth of software over....or having to deal with the hassle of rebooting.

I was simply wanting to tinker with Ubuntu / Linux in general, so I can learn something new.
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To be honest I kind of understand where you are coming from. I really like Linux and for a while I was running Arch on everything and dual booting on my main pc. Then I went to build a new PC. I had planned to go with Nvidia but after having some bad luck I ended up going with an ATi which is really lacking in driver support for Linux. I went to back to Windows 7 figuring I'd use Linux again when driver support reached the hd 6870. However I found it's kind of nice not to dual boot. I play games more often with the little bits of free time, I can just pop in and use photoshop for quick things rather than having to reboot. I know I can use wine for some of these but not all of it and to use some things in wine and some things in windows doesn't make sense to me.

Like I said I think Linux is great and I still use it on my netbook and other PC's and I wish everyone would use it so that everything would be usable on it. Sadly though this is not the case and I just don't see the benefit of dual booting anymore, especially when on a system that is good enough to run windows just as well.
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The VM issues he'll have mostly are gone, let him run it in a VM, he can play with it, test stuff, etc in a consequence free environment, later might come the day when he decides to dual boot, it's what I did at first as well.
    
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The VM issues he'll have mostly are gone, let him run it in a VM, he can play with it, test stuff, etc in a consequence free environment, later might come the day when he decides to dual boot, it's what I did at first as well.
Exactly . I'm learning the new OS, in my own leisure time, without worry of screwing up my bootup. Without the worry of losing ANYTHING other than my VM Box.

Hell, if the time came to it, I could honestly do a full out switch. But I refuse to do so until my games all work, or they quit working on Windows.
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