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How did I contradict myself? I said you probablly won't save much money buying a bulldozer system. Then I said Performance-wise, no one knows what Bulldozer will bring (There are no benchmarks out).

The statement may have been a touch vague by using the word "It," but clearly "it" is the pronoun associated with the noun "bulldozer" in the same sentance.

In fact, the more that I reread the statement the clearer it actually seems, because I specifically state that there are no benchmarks immediately following (but what you failed to highlight)

Inb4 I'm an Intel Fanboy (I own more AMD systems than I do Intel)
You said yourself nobody can predict the performance or price of the Bulldozer chips, the part where you contradicted yourself was when you said people won't save much if any money by waiting for the Bulldozer. You cannot possible know that unless you've tested or are co-developing the flagship processor with AMD, which I very much doubt you've done.
    
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High end intel platforms are just plain overkill for gaming. The motherboards are more expensive, the chips are more expensive, and the memory is more expensive. The only reason intel says that x58 is the top of the line for gaming is so they can make more money.

If your just gaming, get yourself a 2500k, sli/cfx compatible p67 board, and dual high end video cards and your set for 3-5 years. I'm probably going to be doing the same, and returning my ud3p for a ud4 when the revised p67 boards come out.
     
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post #23 of 34
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How did I contradict myself? I said you probablly won't save much money buying a bulldozer system. Then I said Performance-wise, no one knows what Bulldozer will bring (There are no benchmarks out).

The statement may have been a touch vague by using the word "It," but clearly "it" is the pronoun associated with the noun "bulldozer" in the same sentance.

In fact, the more that I reread the statement the clearer it actually seems, because I specifically state that there are no benchmarks immediately following (but what you failed to highlight)

Inb4 I'm an Intel Fanboy (I own more AMD systems than I do Intel)
Yes you did contradict yourself
You know as much about the price range as you do about performance
Therefore implying you know know something about what the price of Bulldozer will be and then saying anybody who thinks they know anything about Bulldozer performance wise doesn't know what they're talking about is contradictory
    
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High end intel platforms are just plain overkill for gaming. The motherboards are more expensive, the chips are more expensive, and the memory is more expensive. The only reason intel says that x58 is the top of the line for gaming is so they can make more money.

If your just gaming, get yourself a 2500k, sli/cfx compatible p67 board, and dual high end video cards and your set for 3-5 years. I'm probably going to be doing the same, and returning my ud3p for a ud4 when the revised p67 boards come out.
I agree. I never saw any reason to buy a CPU with fake cores attached claiming to be "higher end" than a normal quad i5 because it isn't. Well, it is for now (because at the moment only 50-60% of the CPU is used during most games, and Windows can use the extra threads for running some basic Windows processes, which is why it is faster), until games come out that make full use of 8 threads, only then will people be using their i7s to the full extent, but by then it will stutter at running applications with such requirements (especially if it's a game), as Hyperthreading has and never will be as good as a proper CPU core.
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post #25 of 34
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High end intel platforms are just plain overkill for gaming.
Agree...

I bought a Core 2 Extreme back in 2007. It was expensive and unnecessary for gaming. I'm smarter now, and the 2500k and board bundle I bought from MC was under $300, before tax. That is less than 1/3 the cost of that Core 2 chip back in '07. This stuff all depreciates like crazy, so no point in spending money on things you don't need. I don't understand why so many gamers paid $150 more for a 2600k, then just turn off HT to get the max OC possible. Just buy a 2500k and save the money for something better that will actually enhance your system.
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Get the Sandy Bridge when you are able. The issue occurs in less than 15% of the 6 series chipset boards. Not all the SATA 3.0 ports are affected either. I will swap my board when a replacement arrives without a hiccup.

This thing screams! People are getting 5+ghz out of these things on air cooling. You really cannot beat that and I too hope Bulldozer does bring AMD closer to Intel again because if it does not, we will see a delay in evolution.
 
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LGA2011 will only offer Intel Extreme CPUs, so unless you plan on spending $1,000 on a CPU, just get a 2500k or 2600k now and be happy with it. Ivy Bridge will come to LGA1155 in about a year anyways. Full 2600k build with a GTX560 will cost you about $1,000 flat. That should be enough to handle BF3 maxed out.
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post #28 of 34
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Originally Posted by Behemoth777 View Post
High end intel platforms are just plain overkill for gaming. The motherboards are more expensive, the chips are more expensive, and the memory is more expensive. The only reason intel says that x58 is the top of the line for gaming is so they can make more money.

If your just gaming, get yourself a 2500k, sli/cfx compatible p67 board, and dual high end video cards and your set for 3-5 years. I'm probably going to be doing the same, and returning my ud3p for a ud4 when the revised p67 boards come out.
This is useful man, thanks +REP
Can you recommend me a decent SLI & CrossFireX board that I could put for example 2 GTX 570's or 2 HD 6950's on say?
Also RAM and HDD?
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Get the Sandy Bridge when you are able. The issue occurs in less than 15% of the 6 series chipset boards. Not all the SATA 3.0 ports are affected either. I will swap my board when a replacement arrives without a hiccup.

This thing screams! People are getting 5+ghz out of these things on air cooling. You really cannot beat that and I too hope Bulldozer does bring AMD closer to Intel again because if it does not, we will see a delay in evolution.
Why do people think this when Intel themselves have stated otherwise?
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April, they will be back
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