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Whenever i read stuff like this i wonder what's the point? I dont know enough about it to make a proper judgement but it seems to me that services provided by these technologies make them more of a wireless network. So why not just develop it as a network service rather than a phone service, since that seems to be the whole point anyway.

As far as i know the signals used have gotten weaker and weaker since NMT so i cant see that as being the problem.
 
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I just loved it when Apple called their new iPhone 4G, to compete with companies trying to offer 4g networking. 4th generation /= 4G networking!
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Originally Posted by Huzzbutt View Post
Whenever i read stuff like this i wonder what's the point? I dont know enough about it to make a proper judgement but it seems to me that services provided by these technologies make them more of a wireless network. So why not just develop it as a network service rather than a phone service, since that seems to be the whole point anyway.

As far as i know the signals used have gotten weaker and weaker since NMT so i cant see that as being the problem.
lolwut?


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I just loved it when Apple called their new iPhone 4G, to compete with companies trying to offer 4g networking. 4th generation /= 4G networking!
Uhm? It's the iPhone 4, not iPhone 4g... unless you're referring to the Verizon iPhone at that point I'm not certain.
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post #14 of 35
Quote:
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lolwut?




Uhm? It's the iPhone 4, not iPhone 4g... unless you're referring to the Verizon iPhone at that point I'm not certain.
Sounds stupid, but you would be amazed at how many people thought the iphone 4 was supposed to have 4G service. People are retarded. Expect the dumbest thing you can possibly think of.

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As I said in my previous post.

4g = 1Gbps down, 500Mbps up.
Verizon "4g LTE" = 100Mbps down, 50Mbps up.
HSPA+ = 56Mbps down 56Mbps up.

Source
Yea i was pulling from the same source... thats where I saw it a few months ago. Didn't realize 100mbit was only the best you would get for high mobility transportation vs on foot pedestrian getting up to 1gbit

Aren't most verizon 4g LTE speed tests only showing like 10-15mbit tops ?

I have verizon myself and have been keeping an eye on the LTE network and my co worker has the dongle and doesnt get anything close to 100mbit... (this is NYC metro area and Long Island)
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Sounds stupid, but you would be amazed at how many people thought the iphone 4 was supposed to have 4G service. People are retarded. Expect the dumbest thing you can possibly think of.



Yea i was pulling from the same source... thats where I saw it a few months ago. Didn't realize 100mbit was only the best you would get for high mobility transportation vs on foot pedestrian getting up to 1gbit

Aren't most verizon 4g LTE speed tests only showing like 10-15mbit tops ?

I have verizon myself and have been keeping an eye on the LTE network and my co worker has the dongle and doesnt get anything close to 100mbit... (this is NYC metro area and Long Island)
Oh I'm sure Verizon can't even come close to it's LTE speeds... doesn't surprise me one bit.

Now 10-15Mbps isn't bad but still, stop the false advertising damnit!!!
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The worst are AT&T and T-Mobile I keep on having to explain to people at my school that all 4G's aren't the same and HSPA+ is 3G+ and what Sprint (WiMax) and Verizon (LTE) is more like 3.5G
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As for the OP's question - Fiction. No one has 4G, they have not defined it, and no international committee has convened and ratified such a standard.

What the companies do now is outright false advertizing and fraud, because none of it is 4G, and LTE is just some proprietary garbage thrown into the mix to satisfy the marketing people that want to have some new standard on an annual basis - so they can sell replacements for last year's garbage.

And I think Apple was pretty sketchy with the iPhone 4 - because people realistically want 4G service (even though few carriers even offer 3G service, at least in this dump of a country). I think they need to have laws to make these things very, very clear to people, because it is deceptive marketing in it's most rancid hours.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvanPitts View Post
As for the OP's question - Fiction. No one has 4G, they have not defined it, and no international committee has convened and ratified such a standard.

What the companies do now is outright false advertizing and fraud, because none of it is 4G, and LTE is just some proprietary garbage thrown into the mix to satisfy the marketing people that want to have some new standard on an annual basis - so they can sell replacements for last year's garbage.

And I think Apple was pretty sketchy with the iPhone 4 - because people realistically want 4G service (even though few carriers even offer 3G service, at least in this dump of a country). I think they need to have laws to make these things very, very clear to people, because it is deceptive marketing in it's most rancid hours.
Please read my other posts, as they HAVE set a standard for what 4g specifications are...

And why is Apple sketchy for calling the 4th gen iphone, iPhone 4? Not like it says... iPhone 4g...
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10 years from now...Get your 6G phone!
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10 years from now...Get your 6G phone!
You mean 4g..... LOL
Seeing how the telecoms are thats how long it will take to push out real 4g speeds.
    
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