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Originally Posted by RotaryKnight View Post
You mean 4g..... LOL
Seeing how the telecoms are thats how long it will take to push out real 4g speeds.
Yep but they will call it 6g lol.
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Cell phone companies refer to 4G as 4th Generation. Why do people think we can suddenly jump from 3Mbps to 1Gbps?
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Originally Posted by SIMPSONATOR View Post
Cell phone companies refer to 4G as 4th Generation. Why do people think we can suddenly jump from 3Mbps to 1Gbps?


But 4g has a definition...

That's like me advertising I have Wireless N but it only get 10mbps, but the "N" stands for New...
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Well...the "true" classification of 4G isn't what it was even 2 months ago. Technically speaking, every single carrier that now preaches of 4G awesomeness follows the new refined (read: watered down spec of suck that the powers that be bent over to corporate marketing America for) spec. It's sad really, because nothing but greed and marketing ruined it for us.

As I see it now, T-Mobile and Verizon have the best seat in the house as far as speeds go. Verizon has the coverage and money to push LTE ahead. T-Mobile keeps upgrading HSPA+ at break neck speeds mainly because it is more software based than anything. There will come a point though when HSPA+ simply can't be upgraded any more.

Meanwhile, Sprint is barely moving with WiMax -- it's been a couple years going now and they don't even have 100 markets yet. Verizon is going to beat that in the first year.

And don't even get me started on that ses pool of disgust that is AT&T. Their 7.2Mbps 2-year old HSPA+ is 3G plain and simple.
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Well...the "true" classification of 4G isn't what it was even 2 months ago. Technically speaking, every single carrier that now preaches of 4G awesomeness follows the new refined (read: watered down spec of suck that the powers that be bent over to corporate marketing America for) spec. It's sad really, because nothing but greed and marketing ruined it for us.

As I see it now, T-Mobile and Verizon have the best seat in the house as far as speeds go. Verizon has the coverage and money to push LTE ahead. T-Mobile keeps upgrading HSPA+ at break neck speeds mainly because it is more software based than anything. There will come a point though when HSPA+ simply can't be upgraded any more.

Meanwhile, Sprint is barely moving with WiMax -- it's been a couple years going now and they don't even have 100 markets yet. Verizon is going to beat that in the first year.
Yeah.

@KusH: They actually modified the definition of 4G this past December. So now everyone claiming 4G is actually right in doing so. Weird, but it happened.

We have both LTE and WiMax here in Columbus. We're a Verizon test market so we get LTE in the first batch of cities, and Sprint knows this so without even announcing it, they made their 4G available the same week LTE officially "went live".
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I see it as nothing more than a way for telecoms to charge more money for the same damn thing.
 
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Very good read for those who are confused about what 4G really is. Opinions? thoughts?

Sorry if re-post... I did use the search!
MaximumPC already did a article on this 2 months ago. Basically we're not technically getting 4G, more like 3.5G to be exact.

Maximum PC - Will the real 4g please stand up?

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LTE can reach speeds of 100Mb/s downlink and 50Mb/s uplink, while WiMAX delivers up to 128Mb/s down and 56Mb/s up. These speeds hurtle past 3G standards, but they're still far off the 4G purists' target, which has led some to dub LTE and WiMAX "3.9G" technologies.

The ITU-R guideline for true 4G is known as IMT (International Mobile Telecommunications) Advanced. According to that standards body, wireless technologies must run at 1Gb/s for stationary users and 100Mb/s for moving connections. The IMT Advanced guideline also calls for significantly reduced latency: 10ms.

The ITU-R hasn't identified a specification that meets it s goals for IMT Advanced; instead, the next generations of LTE and WiMAX—LTE Advanced and IEEE 802.16e—are being designed to achieve those speeds.

While the ITU-R definition of 4G will push the industry toward even faster performance, carriers defend their "4G" designators. "We're talking about doing basically an order of magnitude change in the capabilities of our wireless technology," says Verizon's Higgins. "To us, that's a meaningful difference and is worthy of creating the right kind of brand around that, which is '4G'."
But this is the same as how the new USB3.0 is marketed to the public. All you see is 10x the speed of USB2.0, which is true, but there's so much more in between that a consumer needs before they can take advantage of Superspeed USB (source, cable, destination) all have to be up to spec or you will not see USB3 speeds.
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But this is the same as how the new USB3.0 is marketed to the public. All you see is 10x the speed of USB2.0, which is true, but there's so much more in between that a consumer needs before they can take advantage of Superspeed USB (source, cable, destination) all have to be up to spec or you will not see USB3 speeds.
Theoretical speeds are a wondrous marketing tool.
 
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A tl;dr version please...
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Originally Posted by MobAttack View Post
I just loved it when Apple called their new iPhone 4G, to compete with companies trying to offer 4g networking. 4th generation /= 4G networking!
Its called the iPhone 4 numbnuts

4 because its the 4th generation iPhone....

They never put a g on the end
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