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Wow was the only example I had some sort of "personal" experience of core usage relating to gpu usage.

I have fraps of BFBC2 on the 1090T vs the i5-2500k. As well as Mafia II with and without physx... I didn't really feel it was necessary flood the thread with my results. But I can assure you in everything I've compared with the i5 to the 1090T made me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

I mean I can toss out some vantage/3d mark 11 scores but then I'll get denounced by the "benchmarks" assault.

Wow indicates what you'll see in the majority of games out there, while not ideal... There are a lot more games coded for 2 cores than there are 4.


Please keep in mind this isn't my thoughts on "If you already have an AMD x6", its directed towards AMD x6 vs SB, which would you upgrade to... While I upgraded from an x6 to the i5, I did it for reasons I felt warranted the switch at a time when the switch was cheap for me. Heck I sold my 1090T for about what you can buy it new for now, and that was just a few weeks ago.
I'm buying it just for our benchmark team, that's all I buy new PCs for anyway lol, if it games then it will! I don't spend that much time encoding and what not anymore, it's purely business applications. I would notice the difference but a normal user would not. Benchmark wise is the only reason to do it because outside of that the power is of no use to anyone, it becomes an egotistical matter. Although this is an enthusiast site, there will be flammage, envy, and fanboyism. Bottom line is I am upset because I wasn't able to get my new goods to lay waste on Hwbot tonight.
But to all waiting on Bulldozer to save the day, price range may make it a competitive system. (I will defiitely get one...and you know this...MAN!!!!!)
This is an overclocking forum people, take what you have and make it better than it is WAS the motto, let's not lose sight of the prize.
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No, not if you're upgrading from a none gen one core cpu? lol....

Also the new chips get better fps than the old ones, even at equal clocks... Though not enough to really warrant an upgrade as the difference isn't that great.

If I was the OP and I wasn't going to upgrade to Intel I wouldn't upgrade to an x6 either. The x6 isn't a really a very good choice over the x4, the difference in almost everything we typically do won't be seen. Unless the OP renders and encodes for a living, then the x6 would be a worthwhile upgrade.
Dude, stop being an asshat--of course we're not talking about upgrading from an old single-core machine, since the OP explicitly stated what he has--why would we be discussing anything else?
    
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What...? A 4GHz Core i7 950 doesn't bottleneck 2 GTX 580s, so how would a 2600K that is faster clock for clock and goes MUCH higher going to bottleneck 2 GTX 580s let alone 3?
Yes actually an overclocked 2600K and overclocked i7-950 do bottleneck two GTX580's. The GPU usage may be 100% but that doesn't mean that they're pushing them to their absolute limit, you could get more FPS with a faster CPU.

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please provide information of motherboards dying, I'd love to read up on it.
There is no proof right now, you'll have to wait a year or so I guess.
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Yes actually an overclocked 2600K and overclocked i7-950 do bottleneck two GTX580's. The GPU usage may be 100% but that doesn't mean that they're pushing them to their absolute limit, you could get more FPS with a faster CPU.
And you've seen this where..? Because everything I've read says otherwise.
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Yes actually an overclocked 2600K and overclocked i7-950 do bottleneck two GTX580's. The GPU usage may be 100% but that doesn't mean that they're pushing them to their absolute limit, you could get more FPS with a faster CPU.


There is no proof right now
, you'll have to wait a year or so I guess.
If an overclocked 2600K and overclocked i7-950 do bottleneck two GTX580's as you claim, than what do you think AMD processors would do? We've seen Balla post proof of his SINGLE 470 getting bottlenecked by a 1090T @ 4.4:
http://www.overclock.net/12262801-post30.html

I've yet to see anyone report such bottlenecks that you're claiming. You got links to such reports?

There's no proof of motherboards dying, nor will there ever will be, maybe you should read up on what the real issue is. 5%-15% of SATA II ports in 1155 motherboards may degrade in a 2 - 3 year period, which means whatever was connected to those ports one day may not get recognized.

That's far from a motherboard dying, quit spreading lies.

Besides, people will have replacement boards by April, which will eliminate that issue that a single transistor messed up.
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This is hilarious, I'm sorry people but balla is 100% correct. Phenom II's just barely trade blows with core 2 chips which is two generations old for intel. Have fun seeing your gpu usage spike in any cpu intensive game out there.
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Yes actually an overclocked 2600K and overclocked i7-950 do bottleneck two GTX580's. The GPU usage may be 100% but that doesn't mean that they're pushing them to their absolute limit, you could get more FPS with a faster CPU.


There is no proof right now, you'll have to wait a year or so I guess.
Thank you for showing just how little you actually understand this stuff. 100% usage is 100% usage. There is nothing beyond 100%. And I am in no way an intel fanboy, unless pointing out the facts makes someone a fanboy nowadays.
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And you've seen this where..? Because everything I've read says otherwise.
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If an overclocked 2600K and overclocked i7-950 do bottleneck two GTX580's as you claim, than what do you think AMD processors would do?

I've yet to see anyone report such bottlenecks that you're claiming. You got links to such reports?
There was a thread on this forum a few weeks ago comparing the i7-980x to the i7-2600k and you could see more and more FPS being gained past 4.2GHZ so there's un tapped power which won't be harnessed.

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There's no proof of motherboards dying, nor will there ever will be, maybe you should read up on what the real issue is. 5%-15% of SATA II ports may degrade in a 2 - 3 year period, which means whatever was connected to those ports one day may not get recognized.

Besides, people will have replacement boards by April, which will eliminate that issue.
You're right there isn't any proof of any motherboards dying, you don't know for sure though if any ever will; unless of course you can see into the future ?
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You're right there isn't any proof of any motherboards dying, you don't know for sure though if any ever will; unless of course you can see into the future ?
According to reports, there hasn't been a single suggestion that motherboards will die. That stupid SATA II issue will be resolved, and people will have replacement boards, meaning users won't be affected by it.

But somehow YOU can see into the future right? Oh the irony in your statements. Please keep enlightening us with your wisdom.

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I'd just go with an x6, it's much easier to just put a new chip in and you don't have to worry about your motherboard suddenly dying in a few months.

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Dude, stop being an asshat--of course we're not talking about upgrading from an old single-core machine, since the OP explicitly stated what he has--why would we be discussing anything else?
Do you have a hard time following you?

I've killed 4 AMD mobos, I expect to kill some Intel ones too... Mobos die
    
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