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I am building a PC with water cooling, and I have it set up like this:

Reservoir --> Pump --> Radiator --> CPU --> Reservoir

Is this right?

Also, if I got any other blocks (GPU, Ram, NB, etc.), where do they go in the loop?

Also I have this cooling fluid that is "UV reactant". Any suggestions as to which UV light to buy/ how to replace the LEDs in my radiator fans with UV ones so that the fluid will show up prominently? My case is Corsair 800D with a tripple-long radiator mounted to the top where the 3 120mm fans are, so plenty of room for whatever you think will be good. This is my first setup using water cooling and I don't want anything to go wrong. I am using 3/8" ID/ G1/4" connectors for the block and the reservoir, etc, and 3/8" ID/ 1/2" OD clear plastic tubing.

Also, If there are connectors that don't have the little screw things that you use to secure the tubing to the valves, should I secure the tubing with a zip-tie or something to prevent leaking? Or should I always use the G1/4" fittings that have the extra nut that secures the tubing onto the block/res/rad?

Any thoughts would be appreciated (brainstorming, any ideas, suggestions, warnings, past experiences, or even changes)!

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post #2 of 19
well i am gonna start by saying dont bother wcing RAM or NB its a waste and will yield no results. If you should add a GPU put it after the cpu in the loop. Also you kinda wanna avoid those coolants they tend to gunk up your blocks and cause problems. You can use zip ties around the barbs if it makes you feel better.
    
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post #3 of 19
That loop order is great.

Do not use coolant bro. Use distilled water + PT nuke. It'll last longer, cleaner, safer, and will perform better.
    
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OK this PT nuke stuff, that prevents bacteria/mold/algae/etc from forming inside your loop right? What ratio should I use (mL of PT nuke to L of water)?

Or should I just eyebell it, like 2 drops no matter how much water you're using?

Aaaand just to make sure distilled water is just the kind you get from a jug at the supermarket, right (supernoob question)?
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OK this PT nuke stuff, that prevents bacteria/mold/algae/etc from forming inside your loop right?
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What ratio should I use (mL of PT nuke to L of water)?

Or should I just eyebell it, like 2 drops no matter how much water you're using?
There are gonna be instructions on it when you buy one

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Aaaand just to make sure distilled water is just the kind you get from a jug at the supermarket, right (supernoob question)?
yes... distilled water.
    
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post #6 of 19
^Agreed. Good stuff.

+1 saying no to RAM, NB or SB. GPU...good stuff there.

Loop order really doesn't matter as long as your pump is always fed during filling/priming (usually from the reservoir or T-line and higher than the pump inlet). Outside of that...order will not net better temps one way or another.
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post #7 of 19
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OK OK so I'm going to use distilled water and this PT nuke stuff you guys recommended, now let's see...

When I first get my water/pt nuke solution into the reservoir, should I have everything installed? Because I saw this one video where this guy was powering his cpu but none of the water was reaching it before it got too hot that the motherboard shut it down and he had to turn it on like four times to complete the loop and that doesn't seem like a very good idea because heating giving power to the cpu when there's nothing there to cool it seems like a very bad idea. On the other hand, installing the cpu after mounting the waterblock doesn't really seem possible, sooo I guess my only option is:

Leave the cpu 4-pin power connector unplugged until enough water has circulated in the machine that it's covering the cpu waterblock, then turning off the computer, connecting the 4-pin cpu power connecter and turning on the machine. Does this seem like a good idea? Or will the system not even turn on if the cpu is getting no power, or does it depend on the motherboard, etc.?
Edited by zebra_ - 2/4/11 at 4:37pm
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post #9 of 19
I dont know that much about water cooling but i do know not to install everything yet. only leave in the power supply so you can power the pump....first before you install ANYTHING else make sure theres no leakages with the hoses and attachments .... last thing you want is to kill all your electronics.... i also recommend using paper towels to put on the base inside the case and over your power supply run it for a good amount of time preferably about 4 to 5 hours. remember the longer you run it the safer it will be i would even go as far as testing it for a couple days before continuing the build
post #10 of 19
No, you want to disconnect the PSU from everything in your case except the pump. 24pin motherboard, cpu cable, GPU cable, HDDs, etc. Then jump the psu to turn on the pump. That way nothing in your computer is actually on while you fill the loop.
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