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Where else is he supposed to go? Research? How hes a busy guy.
His IT team? They've already given him a huge extravagant quote to go current in this economy.
A consultant? $$$$ charges foe setup or advice per hour.

OCN is free and it has a few good people that can help. OP check the networking section, there are a few heavy hitter users here that could help you. Good luck running your company. And I pray for prosperity for your business, you guys are the ones running our economy! You rock!
All I'm saying is that he should still shop around. Rushing blindly into any solution at this point is not the way to go. And do you REALLY want to say to anybody that you're basing BUSINESS decisions on the recommendations of an OVERCLOCKING forum? Seriously? None of the "heavy hitters" here are going to run the risk of any potential legal ramifications as a result of providing solutions to a business.

It's obvious that his current IT team is not the best option. It could simply be that the disaster-recovery scenario is not one they want to tackle, hence the ridiculous price.

Furthermore, the information right now is incomplete. Most critically, the OP states he has backups. Backups of what? Exchange? Database or mailbox-level? What about the system-state of the SBS server, which includes Active Directory information? If he has no system-state backup, he's at the point where he needs to rebuild the domain - it's no longer a disaster recovery.

At this point, I would suggest contacting a local Dell reseller or partner to get additional quotes for suggestions. Or IBM Global Business Services or HP-equivalent.
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Agreed With ComGuards, this is a business we are talking about here and I for one do not want to be held responsible for anything that may go wrong from my suggestions. The only advice I would suggest is...

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At this point, I would suggest contacting a local Dell reseller or partner to get additional quotes for suggestions. Or IBM Global Business Services or HP-equivalent.
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For $8K and all the labor included to move things over from the old to the new server, etc? Not a great price but not horrible either. If that was for just the server that is crazy.
    
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I have to agree with the more business minded sentiments posted here - which is why I asked about backups and backup policy. A Dell/HP/major OEM reseller should be consulted before any final decisions are taken. They should/will be able to point him in the direction of tools which can restore his system.

I myself am starting a fledgling business, and the kind of decisions I take are not the kind I would take if they affected only me. I have think in terms of uptime, disruption and restoration in the event of disaster.

It's very different mentality.
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Oh wow. I own/run a small business. Forget windows. Forget multi thousand dollar budgets.

You are an engineer, you can be IT. I'm not rich, so I'm IT for my biz, too.

Check out this thread I started talking about servers. Since that post, I have simplified that server even more...

My advice and thoughts:
OS: ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop Ubuntu is fantastically easy to admin. Any problems? Google + ubuntuforums.org = already answered with 4 or 5 options. Desktop because as a newb, you'll want the GUI. Running the desktop doesn't hurt performance enough to care.
File serving: Samba share on a RAID That's what we're doing. And for backups, I have an e-sata drive dock and 2 spare 1TB drives. I put a drive in, rsync the raid to it. Done. Samba is linux-speak for windows share.
Admin tools: install WebMin It's free (just like everything else) and it is in the software center. Install it. Use it. Love it.
Email: Google Apps OMG it's awesome. We use 3 accounts for my business with 7 people using it. 1 account is my own. 1 is for the website's contact form and order page. 3rd account is the one everyone shares. Each person has their own label. The inbox is current action items that require most everyone's attention. It works fantastically + you aren't responsible for managing the crap.
Hardware: use your current setup But get a true hardware raid card. I bought mine at Fry's. Get 5 1TB HDDs and put them in raid 5 so you get mirroring and 2TB total storage. Drive #5 is your karmic pay forward to the IT gods and is your "ready" spare.

I'm out the door to head in to work ... if you'd like we can talk on the phone. Reply or PM me and we can BS about it I know how stressed you are. Whooooooooo do I.

Best,
Chris
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post #26 of 39
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All I'm saying is that he should still shop around. Rushing blindly into any solution at this point is not the way to go. And do you REALLY want to say to anybody that you're basing BUSINESS decisions on the recommendations of an OVERCLOCKING forum? Seriously? None of the "heavy hitters" here are going to run the risk of any potential legal ramifications as a result of providing solutions to a business.

It's obvious that his current IT team is not the best option. It could simply be that the disaster-recovery scenario is not one they want to tackle, hence the ridiculous price.

Furthermore, the information right now is incomplete. Most critically, the OP states he has backups. Backups of what? Exchange? Database or mailbox-level? What about the system-state of the SBS server, which includes Active Directory information? If he has no system-state backup, he's at the point where he needs to rebuild the domain - it's no longer a disaster recovery.

At this point, I would suggest contacting a local Dell reseller or partner to get additional quotes for suggestions. Or IBM Global Business Services or HP-equivalent.
See, where else would he get advice like That? Even the little things matter, like to visit Dell. His IT team sure as hell isn't!
     
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post #27 of 39
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All I'm saying is that he should still shop around. Rushing blindly into any solution at this point is not the way to go. And do you REALLY want to say to anybody that you're basing BUSINESS decisions on the recommendations of an OVERCLOCKING forum? Seriously? None of the "heavy hitters" here are going to run the risk of any potential legal ramifications as a result of providing solutions to a business.

It's obvious that his current IT team is not the best option. It could simply be that the disaster-recovery scenario is not one they want to tackle, hence the ridiculous price.

Furthermore, the information right now is incomplete. Most critically, the OP states he has backups. Backups of what? Exchange? Database or mailbox-level? What about the system-state of the SBS server, which includes Active Directory information? If he has no system-state backup, he's at the point where he needs to rebuild the domain - it's no longer a disaster recovery.

At this point, I would suggest contacting a local Dell reseller or partner to get additional quotes for suggestions. Or IBM Global Business Services or HP-equivalent.
The only part I would disagree with is the rushing. The OP states he is working in a declining business, whose main (or only) server just crashed. That means work isn't getting done (or at least as efficiently), communication with customers is being affected by lack of email, directory & print services are probably getting interrupted also. Calling dell/hp/ibm (or their local affiliate) is a good idea, but he doesn't necessarily have a whole lot of time to wait for a big firms plan of action. Waiting for a consultant to come back with a plan, get that approved, get hardware ordered, wait for shipping, wait for the consultant to get everything installed you could be looking at 2-3 weeks easy.

Nobody likes to do something twice, but in a case like this sometimes it is better to find a fast duct tape solution, and do it again down the road when finances are better and there is time to work with.
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The only part I would disagree with is the rushing. The OP states he is working in a declining business, whose main (or only) server just crashed. That means work isn't getting done (or at least as efficiently), communication with customers is being affected by lack of email, directory & print services are probably getting interrupted also. Calling dell/hp/ibm (or their local affiliate) is a good idea, but he doesn't necessarily have a whole lot of time to wait for a big firms plan of action. Waiting for a consultant to come back with a plan, get that approved, get hardware ordered, wait for shipping, wait for the consultant to get everything installed you could be looking at 2-3 weeks easy.

Nobody likes to do something twice, but in a case like this sometimes it is better to find a fast duct tape solution, and do it again down the road when finances are better and there is time to work with.
Well, the company I work for would have a plan of action ready for implementation within a single business day... so... I assume there are other companies out there with the same capabilities and response times...

I'm not saying going for a "consultant". You go with a company that's got industry-backing. Companies that have access to distribution-channels, where you can get IBM and HP servers even same-day or next-business-day.

Again - the point I'm trying to make right now is that we really don't know if the situation is "disaster recovery", or simply "disaster".

Rebuilding a domain is quick. File-level restore is quick, to a new server, assuming hardware is all available. Mail recovery is going to be a b!tch, but in a pinch, Google Apps would be one way to go to get email up and running quickly. At this point, I don't suggest running SBS or Exchange since the knowledge and skillset obviously isn't available to manage such an environment.
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And you were doubting OCN. Look there are helpful and knowledgable people like you, being a good Samaritan and helping your fellow person in need. Good info for the OP comguard.
     
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