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hire an online server at a server farm
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Originally Posted by GlockZoR IV View Post
hire an online server at a server farm
The thing I have against that option is you need really fast cable modem for internet. Im stuck with dsl at my work. We can't even pay cox to bring cable in. :-/

in house ubuntu server ftw. Btw I left pm with my cell #. Im at work tomorrow, too, so feel free to call. I've got a tv and antenna set up in the office, so I'll put the game on it...

:-) Chris
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post #33 of 39
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Well, the company I work for would have a plan of action ready for implementation within a single business day... so... I assume there are other companies out there with the same capabilities and response times...

I'm not saying going for a "consultant". You go with a company that's got industry-backing. Companies that have access to distribution-channels, where you can get IBM and HP servers even same-day or next-business-day.

Again - the point I'm trying to make right now is that we really don't know if the situation is "disaster recovery", or simply "disaster".

Rebuilding a domain is quick. File-level restore is quick, to a new server, assuming hardware is all available. Mail recovery is going to be a b!tch, but in a pinch, Google Apps would be one way to go to get email up and running quickly. At this point, I don't suggest running SBS or Exchange since the knowledge and skillset obviously isn't available to manage such an environment.
Good points. My clients would fire me if I didn't have a solution available quickly, to the point that I keep a HP ml350 ready to roll for temp use if any of them suffer a complete hardware failure that can't be fixed NBD.

A company with no money to spend and a server that fails is in a bad spot.
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And you were doubting OCN. Look there are helpful and knowledgable people like you, being a good Samaritan and helping your fellow person in need. Good info for the OP comguard.
It's not a matter of "doubting OCN". It's about going to the right places for the right information. The likes of Dell and HP have to deal with the OP's situation every day. OCN doesn't. That's not to say OCN can't be helpful, but 99.99999% of the people on here are concerned with their own machines - and those machines do not support a business infrastructure.

Additionally, I've seen some outlandish sentiments expressed here on OCN, regarding business environments. Gems such as, "don't bother with a Xeon, just overclock the processor you have". Or, "don't bother with a support contract, build the server yourself" for a server supporting 50+ people, and the person in question having no experience building a server for that kind of usage scenario.

When it comes to computing in a business environment, a shift in mentality is required.

@OP

Let us know how you're coming along. One thing that would be useful to know is what caused the data corruption. If you can isolate the cause, you can take steps to avoid it in the future.
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It's not a matter of "doubting OCN". It's about going to the right places for the right information. The likes of Dell and HP have to deal with the OP's situation every day. OCN doesn't. That's not to say OCN can't be helpful, but 99.99999% of the people on here are concerned with their own machines - and those machines do not support a business infrastructure.

Additionally, I've seen some outlandish sentiments expressed here on OCN, regarding business environments. Gems such as, "don't bother with a Xeon, just overclock the processor you have". Or, "don't bother with a support contract, build the server yourself" for a server supporting 50+ people, and the person in question having no experience building a server for that kind of usage scenario.

When it comes to computing in a business environment, a shift in mentality is required.

@OP

Let us know how you're coming along. One thing that would be useful to know is what caused the data corruption. If you can isolate the cause, you can take steps to avoid it in the future.
Thanks for expressing the sentiments that I couldn't quite put into the right words....

The original post requested information on a server build. Those of us in the industry know that hardware is cheap. Software and knowledge is the expensive part. If you have to ask for suggestions on what hardware to buy, you shouldn't be building it yourself.

Right now, I still don't have the foggiest idea of what the recovery plan is for the OP. Seriously. Are we rebuilding an SBS domain? Moving to Google Apps? Trying to recover?

A $2000 server from Dell, or an equivalent $3000 server from IBM or HP would be capable of handling most anything you could throw at it for the size of the organization described. I'm not going to suggest any whitebox configurations because I personally cannot guarantee that ALL of the parts will work together. The OP can spend his time researching what components will work with which motherboard, or he can spend his time coming up with a proper recovery plan. Buy a HP Proliant server for next-business-day delivery and you have your hardware. Then... what?

Or even less, actually. Up-and-running with a cheaper OEM server... but the question still remains - what do you do after you get the hardware...?

New SBS server? That requires (1) building a new SBS domain from scratch, (2) rejoining all existing clients to the new domain, (3) setting up everybody's Outlook profiles to point to the new server, (4) rebuilding file store with proper share & security permissions... just to name a few

New Windows file server? That still requires (1) setting up a domain and (2) rebuilding file store with proper share & security permissions.

Google Apps as email solution? That requires (1) setting up Google Apps, (2) pointing MX records in DNS to new Google Apps values, (3) reconfiguring Outlook clients to point to Google Apps or instructing users on using the web interface.

So... Which one is it going to be?
Edited by ComGuards - 2/5/11 at 6:43pm
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You know what? Forget it, this would be just constitute as thread dumping or flaming. W/e.

Good luck OP!
     
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Hey, everyone. Sorry, I haven't had a chance to sit down and write back, until now. Everything you guys have been throwing at me has been great to help me to figure out the direction I needed to move in.

I still have a little more consulting to do with my IT company, but it seems we have come to a solution after discussing all of our options. I now have a quote for a Dell machine (which I'll post specs for later), that is more than enough for the company. Also, we are looking at a firewall and antivirus suite. The only thing that was outlandish was the installation quote that I received. I was quoted $1500 - $3200 in installation. After I discuss that with them, I think it is going to come closer to the $800 to $1000 mark based on the hourly rates we are contracted with them. I think they were factoring in restoring our previous exchange server. I am going to scrap that data, and start fresh. There may have been 1% of those emails that I needed back, and the costs simply do not outweigh the need for that 1% of info.

In a nutshell, the whole setup should be close to $5.5k installed, instead of the initial $8k disaster. Probably $4.5k up front, and we will spread the installation over a couple of months.

We discussed remote hosting. Charter said they would run us a line to handle the bandwidth. The monthly fees for remote hosting were not feasible, at all, when compared to buying a server.

As for our "disaster recovery", we are doing alright. We are just running on a closed network without a server until we get it installed. Email is going through gmail for the time being. All the storage files from the server have been backed up, and we will just dump them onto the new server, once we have it up and running.

I'm not completely out of this situation, so I'll post back up if I need any more advice. Once again, I would like to thank each and everyone for posting with info to help me out in this time of need. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. It can be pretty frustrating when you are a person who thinks they know a good bit about computers and then are tossed into a situation where you are blind to what is going on. Again, thanks for helping to shed some light on this whole ordeal.
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@OP

Thanks for the update. Word of advice. Don't scrap that Exchange-based email data - put it in archival storage. If you get the time you could probably extract those emails yourself - there MUST be a tool that can do that, surely?
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What is the firewall & virus protection you are looking at?
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