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I am needing some assistance with my first build,

I am finally going to be building me my first machine. This will be a casual gaming rig playable of most modern games, such as Black OPS, MW2, Dead Space 2, Crysis, at least medium settings. And use of softer stuff such as email, web browsing, watching movies, listening to music. etc...

Currently aiming for an i7 or i5 if possible on my budget.

Budget is 650, no more than 700.

Would include case, and decent gaming keyboard/mouse. The only thing that im not purchasing is the Sound system, and Windows 7


Also a side note, currently using this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=5254941

worth upgrading monitor too? I really see nothing wrong with this one.....does the job I want it to, however if there is flaws with it...PLEASE point it out.
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The monitor upgrade isn't necessary, especially since you'll be spending pretty much your entire budget, but a decent 23-24" in the future would be good.

As far as upgrades, there are 3 or 4 routes you can go. First, you could do an i5 sandy bridge build, or an i5/i7 lynnfield build. i7 nehalem's/gulftowns cost way too much and aren't really worth the money anymore unless you can pick one up for $200 at microcenter. The other option is to go AMD, and get a Phenom II x4 or x6. I'll lay out a rough idea of what you should be looking for.

For the CPU, I'd do one of these:

- i5 2500K (after they're finished with the recall)
- i5 750/760 or i7 860/870 (if you can find one used for a good price)
- AMD Phenom II x6 (any)
- AMD Phenom II x4 945 or better

Find a decent motherboard that isn't top of the line to suite those, as well as a cheap ~$50 set of 2x2 GB DDR3-1600 RAM.

Finding a quality PSU is crucial, and I'd suggest looking for something along the lines of a SeaSonic S12II 620W. You can find similar ones built by Corsair/XFX/Silverstone etc. for cheaper used, but the S12II is pretty well price for brand new.

As for a video card, you can go with something like a MSI GTX 460 Twin Frozr II SOC 768mb. Cheap yet powerful.

Case is up to you. I like Lian Li cases, but anything outside of their LanCool series is very expensive. My favorite case is probably Lian Li's LanCool PC-K62 though. Cooler master offers some pretty good cases too for cheap, like the HAF 912/922 and CM690, CM690 II Basic or CM690 II Advanced.

If all of this is new, the cheapest and best way to go would probably be an AMD Phenom II X4 since that'll leave money left over for a mouse+keyboard, the other platforms would cost you too much. If you looked around the For Sale/Wanted section, you could probably pick out a pretty good i5 750/760 system selling for cheap.
    
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This is what I recommend (once the i5 2500k recall issue is over);

CPU: i5 2500k ~ $230
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB ~ $50
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 ~ $160
GPU: MSI N460GTX Twin Frozr II ~ $130
PSU: Antec NEO ECO 620C~ $50*
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB ~ $70
Case: Cooler Master 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP ~ $50*

Total: $700

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This is what I recommend (once the i5 2500k recall issue is over);

CPU: i5 2500k ~ $230
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB ~ $50
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 ~ $160
GPU: MSI N460GTX Twin Frozr II ~ $130
PSU: Diablotek PHD650~ $50
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB ~ $70
Case: HEC 6K28BB8F ~ $35

Total: $685
I agree. this is pretty much what i just built this morning but the board was the pro and i went with the 1gb MSI 460gtx. Only problem is most places have pulled all their SB boards and CPUs so good luck finding them. My stuff literaly shipped the day before Intel made the anouncement. You might be able to pick something up at a Microcenter if there is one near you.
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That's a pretty solid build. As a personal preference, I wouldn't go with the Antec 900, I'd go with one of the cases I suggested. I've dealt with a few Antec 900/902's and I absolutely hate them. They're basically a cheap mid-tower with some flash and high powered fans, no real features to them at all. Cable management is dreadful, hard drive installation is as painful as it was since the dawn of computers, if not worse, and just a bunch of small features people take for granted.

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PSU: Diablotek PHD650~ $50
**** no. Diablotek is GARBAGE. I cannot put enough emphasis on just how important a power supply is to a computer. Junk power supplies like Diablotek can easily let through voltage spikes and unclean power, as well as irregular voltages due to poor voltage regulation. This can easily kill your components or degrade them much quicker over time. Power supplies like this skimp in certain areas and sometimes lack any protections against failure. If a junky power supply fails, it usually takes one or more components with it, sometimes even the entire computer. Quality power supplies will ensure your computer lives a long happy life, while providing basic protections that generic/junky power supplies fail to offer.
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**** no. Diablotek is GARBAGE. I cannot put enough emphasis on just how important a power supply is to a computer. Junk power supplies like Diablotek can easily let through voltage spikes and unclean power, as well as irregular voltages due to poor voltage regulation. This can easily kill your components or degrade them much quicker over time. Power supplies like this skimp in certain areas and sometimes lack any protections against failure. If a junky power supply fails, it usually takes one or more components with it, sometimes even the entire computer. Quality power supplies will ensure your computer lives a long happy life, while providing basic protections that generic/junky power supplies fail to offer.
You're absolutely right. I edited the build, for a more reliable PSU.
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Looks really solid! I would say dont spend that much on a case ( whith your budget),when you can get a good case for almost half that . I would put what you save towards a bigger hdd or somethin.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119233

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16811139003R

I also threw in a 100$ case , Open box deal) Remember a case is something you always see, so get the one you want, or you will be reminded of your mistake everyday!!
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AMD is crap currently, wait on SB/IB. Or perhaps bulldozer, but I wouldn't get your hopes up cause AMD is AMD.

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Originally Posted by born2bwild View Post
This is what I recommend (once the i5 2500k recall issue is over);

CPU: i5 2500k ~ $230
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB ~ $50
Motherboard: Asus P8P67 ~ $160
GPU: MSI N460GTX Twin Frozr II ~ $130
PSU: Antec NEO ECO 620C~ $50*
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 640GB ~ $70
Case: Cooler Master 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP ~ $50*

Total: $700

* Edited
I second above build, but with a Tier 2 PSU instead: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
Corsair is no longer using Seasonic rebrands on the TX series afaik so they longer deserve the tier 2 rating, just fyi

Also it may be worth going with a Gigabyte mobo instead since their boards all have dual BIOS chips. Handy if you like to mod your BIOS for not very legal purposes or just don't want to RMA because of a possible bad flash..
Edited by Dalamar - 2/6/11 at 12:54pm
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I second above build, but with a Tier 2 PSU instead: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
Corsair is no longer using Seasonic rebrands on the TX series afaik so they longer deserve the tier 2 rating, just fyi

Also it may be worth going with a Gigabyte mobo instead since their boards all have dual BIOS chips. Handy if you like to mod your BIOS for not very legal purposes or just don't want to RMA because of a possible bad flash..
According to this site the Antec Neo is a Tier 2 PSU with "Top Quality components With Top Notch Stability."

The Antec Neo, I believe, is perfect for his system and for his budget.

I also second that you should not go with an AMD quad. Sandy Bridge will become available again as of March.
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i7 6700K Custom Apple Motherboard AMD Radeon R9 M395X 4GB 16GB 1867Mhz DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
3TB Apple Fusion Drive 4TB WD Elements External Drive Mac OS X 5120‑by‑2880, 10-bit IPS 
KeyboardMouseAudio
Apple Magic Keyboard Apple Magic Trackpad 2, Razer Deathadder 2013 Bose Companion 2 Series iii 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 970 @ 4.4 Ghz Asus P6X58D-E EVGA GTX 680 SLI @ 1200Mhz 12GB Corsair DDR3 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Pro SSD 2 * 1TB WD Black 5 * 2TB Hitachi LaCie 1TB External HDD 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LG BD Combo Corsair H70 Windows 8 64-bit HP ZR30W (2560*1600) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech 920-000914 OCZ ZX 1250W CM 690 II Advanced Logitech G500 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Razer Goliathus Audez'e LCD-2 Schiit Lyr + NuForce HD DAC Blue Yeti Microphone 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Logitech G35 Altec Lansing 2.0 7 Scythe Ultra Kaze fans @ 3000rpm Scythe Kaze Fan controller 
Other
Logitech C900 Webcam 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i5-6360U 1536MB Iris Graphics 540 8GB RAM 256GB SSD 
OSMonitor
Mac OS X 2560-by-1600 resolution IPS display 
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