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Ahhh but we also have some cache for you too
can I get a free sample

wait my 3dfx pc has Fedora on
wears my damn cookies
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Generally you can answer all "will I still be able to XYZ?" questions with "yes." This is Linux after all. Swapping distros over something as trivial as this isn't really necessary. After all, you're talking about the glassware sitting (nearly) on top of the software stack. It's not like they're replacing the kernel or GNU toolchain. It's quite silly what some people will swap distros over. I think I saw some Ubuntu users on the Ubuntu forum claiming that they would switch if Synaptic was removed from the default software selection.
    
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Yes, at login it is known as Classic desktop.
    
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No longer will we use DM's we will all be using WM's.
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I believed Ubuntu 11.04 really IS the worst version ever! if Ubu 11.04 is as default. I will go back to windows for rest.
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I believed Ubuntu 11.04 really IS the worst version ever! if Ubu 11.04 is as default. I will go back to windows for rest.
umm...I hope you have issues with it besides Unity, because with 11.04 you're basically one "sudo apt-get install gnome" away from the same thing you have for the defaults in 10.10. You're not losing any functionality--the defaults are just changing.
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umm...I hope you have issues with it besides Unity, because with 11.04 you're basically one "sudo apt-get install gnome" away from the same thing you have for the defaults in 10.10. You're not losing any functionality--the defaults are just changing.
This is what i don't understand. Why do people make a big deal about defaults? Why is that something that forces people to change distros? People who change distros over trivial things like this are people who mustn't be interested in learning how to install software.
    
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umm...I hope you have issues with it besides Unity, because with 11.04 you're basically one "sudo apt-get install gnome" away from the same thing you have for the defaults in 10.10. You're not losing any functionality--the defaults are just changing.
coming from windows prolly, the default IS the only option there will be an endless "i'm leaving ubuntu cause of no gnome" threads to fill the interweb when 11.04 is released and the "kiddies" upgrade to it.

this is why ubuntu hurts the linux cause, cause it doesn't show the "choice" option that most linux distro freely advertise, even tho i like ubuntu, and use it, i know how to use linux and how to install other DE's if i so desire, or alter a core part of the OS that i dislike to reflect what i want it to do, a lot do not have this knowledge or desire.

even tho it will be as simple as:

sudo apt-get install gnome

to get gnome back, a lot will not do this cause this isn't the way they think.
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coming from windows prolly, the default IS the only option there will be an endless "i'm leaving ubuntu cause of no gnome" threads to fill the interweb when 11.04 is released and the "kiddies" upgrade to it.

this is why ubuntu hurts the linux cause, cause it doesn't show the "choice" option that most linux distro freely advertise, even tho i like ubuntu, and use it, i know how to use linux and how to install other DE's if i so desire, or alter a core part of the OS that i dislike to reflect what i want it to do, a lot do not have this knowledge or desire.

even tho it will be as simple as:

sudo apt-get install gnome

to get gnome back, a lot will not do this cause this isn't the way they think.
It's not as simple as just blaming gnome/Ubuntu, it's more the end user. More so, your right when you say that win uses aren't used to having this choice. It's not so much the distro not advertising a choice, because all distro's have set defaults, but more so that the users aren't used to having that extra choice. Windows mods are much more intricate than linux, by far, so they aren't used to a single command giving them an entirely new desktop option.

If you think about it, that's a really powerful command. That's almost one of the most powerful commands you can do to a system. With a single command you can change the entire GUI layout, creating a brand new look and feel. You don't have anything like this in windows, or any other OS (outside of the whole *nix family).

This is why the *buntu branches were made, because people don't understand that you can maintain and use Ubuntu with another desktop just as easily as Kubuntu, Xubuntu, ect... does. It's the same thing, well almost. Generally it's not until you've had more experience can you look back and then realize the wasted effort switching to Xubuntu from Gnome just cause you want a new DE. Just grab KDE, no need to install a new system.

You can also view it that windows users are trained to think they have to re-install the whole system to get a new feel. Win98 -> XP -> Vista -> Win7 This is done whether or not there are real system advantages. They just think "Oh, if I want the better system I re-install a new OS". This not only trains them that installing a fresh system is better but in order to get a different UI you need to do this. This of course isn't so, at least not in the *nix world.
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It's not as simple as just blaming gnome/Ubuntu, it's more the end user. More so, your right when you say that win uses aren't used to having this choice. It's not so much the distro not advertising a choice, because all distro's have set defaults, but more so that the users aren't used to having that extra choice. Windows mods are much more intricate than linux, by far, so they aren't used to a single command giving them an entirely new desktop option.

If you think about it, that's a really powerful command. That's almost one of the most powerful commands you can do to a system. With a single command you can change the entire GUI layout, creating a brand new look and feel. You don't have anything like this in windows, or any other OS (outside of the whole *nix family).

This is why the *buntu branches were made, because people don't understand that you can maintain and use Ubuntu with another desktop just as easily as Kubuntu, Xubuntu, ect... does. It's the same thing, well almost. Generally it's not until you've had more experience can you look back and then realize the wasted effort switching to Xubuntu from Gnome just cause you want a new DE. Just grab KDE, no need to install a new system.

You can also view it that windows users are trained to think they have to re-install the whole system to get a new feel. Win98 -> XP -> Vista -> Win7 This is done whether or not there are real system advantages. They just think "Oh, if I want the better system I re-install a new OS". This not only trains them that installing a fresh system is better but in order to get a different UI you need to do this. This of course isn't so, at least not in the *nix world.
Honestly, the Ubuntu installer should have a step where it asks you what DE you want to use and have it default to Unity and simply say "if you don't know what this is, leave it alone" etc... It drastically beats having all this nicknames for Ubuntu with other DEs on it -- it makes them sound like completely other distros.
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