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To be honest, I might want to upgrade to lga 2011, but only if they bring out processors that are decently afforable, like around $300. If it is only going to be $1000 processors, then there is no way it will be as popular as 1366 was/is.
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Kind of... the 2011 socket will only have Extreme editions cpus ($1000 per cpu)
They never said 2011 will be EX only. They said the initial CPU releases will be EX CPUs. This is nothing new here, they will release other CPUs later that are a lower price range. I would not count on anything cheap like some 1155 are any time soon though. I think the estimates are in the 500 - 1000 dollar range once the EX window has past. I am sure cheaper ones will come eventually for 2011, but it could be a bit of a wait. If I had to guess, it would be within range of just waiting for Ivy instead.

The only exception to this is if they announce the 1356 socket for Sandy or Ivy. Then I could see 2011 being high end and EX only. I have not heard any news of 1356 since the leaked chart showing it from way back though, so I have my doubts of its arrival. It would be nice to see though because the boards would be cheaper than 2011 yet still offer PCIe Gen 3 but not as many lanes and only tripple channel memory that would suit a lot of people that are in between the needs of 1155 and 2011.

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Ivy bridge is socket 1155?


2011 is ivy bridge extreme processors?

Are they all P67 platform?

Goodness, Intel, you have to make things so complicated.
Not really complicated. It just seems that way because of Intel talking about Ivy before many 2011 details were released.

Sandy and Ivy are both going to be on 1155 as well as 2011. Only difference is Ivy is a die shrink (with probably a mild refresh) of Sandy.

1155 is all of the *67 chipsets. 2011 will probably be X68 chipset if they keep their current naming tactics.

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If mainstream IB will be compatible with LGA 1155, I am uber stoked
This has been stated from a few sources now, so it should be correct. There is a chance that there may be a couple of features that may not be available on a SB board when you drop an Ivy into it though. This would be due to a UEFI update or the chipset itself not being compatible with the new features.

Not trying to start any rumors here, just stating the worst case scenario that you may at most loose some functionality by reusing a SB board for an Ivy CPU upgrade. The Ivy CPU itself should work as is (probably just needing a BIOS/UEFI update for compatibility) just by dropping in.
Edited by K3VL4R - 2/6/11 at 11:41am
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Meh. I think I'll see what the next generation brings.
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Your reading too much into my statement. Have some fun with it.
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Meh. I think I'll see what the next generation brings.
Same, unless IB shapes up to actually produce a 20% gain and is compatible with my (hopefully then repaired and functional) 1155 mobo. I'm fine dropping in a $200 chip, but I'm not looking to drop another $400-450 on a combo.
    
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Ivy bridge will be mine . So excited. With a 30% increase in graphics performance over sandy bridge as well... there is a strong possibility that the integrated graphics in intel chips may directly compete in terms of efficiency and performance to llano. I think llano will be faster, but intel is going to be surprisingly close in terms of performance and features.

Certainly if ivy bridge offers a direct 20% increase in general performance across the board, it can be expected that ivy bridge will have the ipc to compete with larger core count bulldozer processors, even in highly multithreaded applications. Speculation of course, bulldozer's ipc is unkown, but given what information we have at the moment it seems likely. Intel isn't slowing down for anyone right now.

I like most people was wary of integrated graphics for intel chips on the CPU core, but with them approaching this level of capability and performance... you can almost forgo a dedicated GPU completely. I would be nice if intel could work with Nvidia and ATI to develop a hybrid graphics solutions, so that a more powerful graphics processor could be disability when idle and the intel GPU could be run instead. Windows 7 had the ability to support two graphics drivers at the same time, it can certainly be done. Has been done in similar ways with certain nvidia ion packages (I believe).
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Nice, I just hope IB remains compatible with 1155 socket.




Beat me to it.
you mean the same way that 1156 was supposed to support SB?
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I wonder if there will be a version that can overclock and that does not include integrated graphics? I think workstations that don't need a decent graphics card also don't need the fastest processor. For that kind of build, I believe I'm better off getting an Athlon, using an older motherboard with integrated graphics, and saving some money. A 30% boots to inadequate graphics performance is still inadequate.

If I'm going to buy an expensive CPU, I'd prefer a chip that does not include parts I'm not going to use, and I'm not likely to use integrated graphics until they can keep up with an 8800GTS minimum.
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Here is to hoping that ivy bridge processors are drop in upgrades to current sandy bridge platforms with a bios/uefi update.
Wasn't there something out there saying that 1155 ivy bridge chips were going to need a new motherboard chipset. Along the lines of the 775 cpus which if you remember required you to upgrade your motherboard even though the chip was on the same socket.

powerplane issues or something I don't quite recall as to the exact reasons that intel does this.
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Well I told myself I would wait to upgrade when they moved to 22nm, looks like it will soon be time to move on from the Q6700. I can't wait to see what kind of speed and temperature improvements I'll have over the 65nm Q6700.
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