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post #41 of 53
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Originally Posted by superj1977 View Post
Noticed you have hot water going into your res/pump,not the best config imo.
RAD>PUMP>CPU>GPU would be better.
No he doesn't. The temperature of the entire loop equalizes. The difference in the loop order wouldn't make a noticable difference.
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So stop saying it's bad and calling that guy a troll since it's YOUR OPINION. Loop order is personal preference as long as the water is cooled before hitting the blocks it does not matter.

It's like me wanting cheese on my burger and the other guy saying he wants oranges on hit, that's just how HE likes his burger.

Bottom line is your argument whatever it may be is invalid because it truly doesn't matter. My pump is not dead and will not die from running hot water through it. It's a water pump not a cold water only pump.

And for why I chose to have my pump push hot water is due to the fact that I rather have freshly cooled water from my rad going straight to my waterblocks instead of sitting in a res to go through a lukewarm pump feeding to my blocks (personal preference). You saying it is bad, does not make sense and calling that other guy a troll is wrong.
The guy i called a troll actually quoted me on something,saying i was wrong in my suggestion,
i defended myself and he didnt bother to support his statement despite me sending him a polite pm to tell him i would like his input here on this thread.

So he caused an inflammatory situation then ran off,is that not troll like?

Bottom line is,i didnt make an argument.
Bottom line is,i merely pointed out,that if you have the choice to run components hot or cold in a computer then you usually run it cold...right?

I didnt say anything about anybodys w/c loop config being"bad" i just pointed out that it was more logical to,where possible,run components cool rather than warm/hot.

Its seems that you have either not read my posts correctly or have read into them too much or possibly misperceived what i was saying.

If im not clear enough in what im saying,then,without being sarcastic...or disrespetfull...i can make things clearer if you wish.

Just a quick note on the "T" word,check back from 1st page and find i use it once in its possibly offensive context.
I think i used it in quite an appropriate situation unlike some of the other times it was used in this thread
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Alright, it's 5:1. I'm glad to seem my temps are fine, I was just hoping for a significantly bigger drop I guess
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post #44 of 53
You were questioning peoples common sense therefore starting an argument about them lacking it and why would they ever run hot water through a pump. Nough said.
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Never did water, but those are temps that I get on my Silver Arrow and I am running @ 4.2 GHZ...

Idles around 28-29 with loads going up to 50-55.

Not sure man, but if it's working and youre happy with your OC, why worry about it? 50C load is not that high at all, so enjoy your system
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post #46 of 53
ok so at op your temps are fine. Thats a safe area for amd chips and the only way i see you really truely improving them is if you get 2 more fans for push pull.

@ the rest of you: loop order doesnt matter the water flows so quickly in almost any loop the tempature is eaqual all the way through.. or almost anyways. As for trolls we all love them and they do there thing and bail its life. Can you stop killing a help thread and take it to pm... if this continues or the op has his questions answerd you can close the thread plz :S
post #47 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdvanSuper View Post
You were questioning peoples common sense therefore starting an argument about them lacking it and why would they ever run hot water through a pump. Nough said.
Yes i questioned it all right,and i was suprised i needed to here.

I have learnt a little in the last few hours on here,mostly that the rep people have is in no way any indication of their knowledge,reliability or ability to even grasp the most basic of common knowledge,you helped prove this to me and have opened my eyes,thanks

FYI i asked,"why when you had the choice to run cold through a pump,would you run hot through it instead?"

I did not ask"why would they ever run hot water through a pump"

If you can not see that there is difference between what i actually said and what you perceive me to have said then i think its only right that your common sense should be questioned

Enough said?
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post #48 of 53
lol i think the better show for rep is hte rep per post ratio XD some people just dont get it XD anyways i think this thread is done as the op has lots of input and help maybe a pro like fat_italion or charliehorse can hop in here fast and put an end to it lol
post #49 of 53
Your temps are OK, probably a little higher than you were expecting but still OK. One of the things about water cooling is that the temps do not increase as fast as air cooling when you apply more voltage / OC, so you might have a bit more head room than you think before you hit an unstable temperature.

Ways to reduce the temperature;

As already said, ensure that your rad is fully bled. It looks like you have enough spare hose to unmount the rad and turn it round if you want, or just tilt your case a bit. Remember that the air wants to go up (obviously) so you have to move things round so that the air can escape in an upwards direction.

A reseat of your block can work. AS5 is a decent TIM, you could maybe drop a degree or two by going with something like Shin-Etsu, but you might also drop a few degrees by getting a better mount. I usually do a few mounts until I am happy, it can make quite a difference.

Add more fans. You will see a reduction in temperatures by going for push / pull, but also an increase in noise. Might be a bit tight on space too, check that you wont be interfering with your motherboard before buying more fans.

Reduce your ambients. Can you put your rig in a cooler place? Is it drawing hot air in (from a radiator etc.)?

One other thing you might consider is recording the temperature of the water against the ambient temperature; this can tell you how your loop is performing. If you have high CPU temperatures and there is almost no difference between ambient / water then your block isn't picking up the heat well. If there is a large difference between ambient and water then your rad isn't dumping the heat well enough. It won't fix anything but it might point you towards what you want to look at. However, as I said, your temperatures in this case are fine. This is only worth doing if you want to spend a lot of time and money in dropping a few degrees.

As for the big long argument about loop order and hot water vs cold water going into your pump, consider just how much the temperature of the water changes round the loop. The graph below shows the water temperature rise through a component dumping a certain amount of heat at a given flow. It is calculated from the specific heat capacity of water, the flow rate and the power of the component.



As you can see, even with a low flow rate (0.5GPM) which you should be well above, with the OP's 110W (from the CPU ID screen shot) the water temperature is going to rise by less that 1C. Not really worth changing the loop order to run the pump cooler. Incidentally the same holds true for the heat dump of a pump; even a 50W pump is only going to increase the temperature by a very small amount. Not a problem.

Loop order in general is unimportant as the water temperature rise through a component, and subsequent drop through a radiator, is generally very small. The only exception would be if you have a SLI setup and you are trying to get every last degree on your CPU, but you still won't get all that much.

Edit: These type of pumps (centripetal) are far better at pushing than pulling water. This is why it is important to have the res slightly above the pump, so that there is a slight amount of head at the pump inlet. It does not have to be much, just so long as the water flows naturally into the pump. Not a problem in the OP's case as the res / pump are combined. /edit



Tl,dr:
Temps are fine, you should have a bit of extra OC headroom

You can try to reduce them a little, but might not be worth the effort

Loop order is not important, water temperature only changes by a small amount through the loop

Pumps push, not pull

Edited by GingerJohn - 2/7/11 at 10:16am
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