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Not to sound rude, but why is the 9800GT favored over the GT 430 when the 430 has about a 200 MHz clock difference?


Also, id like to stay away from upgrading my PSU now, too much cash for a decent one..
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I have a standard OEM 300W... not much info on it....
AMD Phenom x3 Triple-core 64-bit at 2.1 GHz
4 GB RAM
and the 8500 GT.


Another video card im interested in.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121426
Opinions? Im open to anything that will accept a 300W PSU
That card is still slower than the 9800GT. The power draw might be less, but considering that the 9800GT I posted is an ECO edition, the difference is negligible.

My vote is still on the 9800GT. Plus, If you decide to upgrade your PC to a faster ATi GPU and a better PSU, you can always use the 9800GT for PhysX.


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Not to sound rude, but why is the 9800GT favored over the GT 430 when the 430 has about a 200 MHz clock difference?


Also, id like to stay away from upgrading my PSU now, too much cash for a decent one..
Clocks don't matter unless you're comparing the same GPUs. The 9800GT has higher memory bandwith, more CUDA cores, and higher texture/pixel fill-rate.
Edited by Primus - 2/6/11 at 2:31pm
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If you're not upgrading your PSU, grab the 9800GT Green / Eco card. Period. There's not a better solution for a 300w PSU for gaming.

As for your GTA IV performance, that's your CPU holding you back. Although a 8500GT is a crap GPU (no offense), adding a better GPU isn't going to make GTA IV play much better as you'll still be held back by the CPU.

Putting in a better GPU will help 10 fold with other games though.
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Not to sound rude, but why is the 9800GT favored over the GT 430 when the 430 has about a 200 MHz clock difference?
Did you miss the benches I posted earlier? The 430 lost to an 880GT in every game tested.

8800/9800GTs have 112 processing cores and a 256-bit memory bus, while the 430 has 96 cores and a 128-bit bus.
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Holy crap look at this little beast for 41W max power draw. W1zzard from TPU OC'd this pig 31%. The passive cooler alone is reason to get, let alone GDDR5.
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ROFL, the 9800GT is twice as fast as that card in every game. Good HTPC card, but not for OP.
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post #27 of 52
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So these are the cards you folks reccomend?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187091

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161342

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161343

But is having only 512 Mb of memory that much of a setback compared to all the 1gig's?
At the beginning I was reluctant from the 400W power supply requirement...
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ROFL, the 9800GT is twice as fast as that card in every game. Good HTPC card, but not for OP.
He can't run the 180W 9800GT on a 300W OEM PSU. And why would someone want a bronze age GT 9800 anyway? A 5670 or 5750 would be much better than that.
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So these are the cards you folks reccomend?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814187091

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161342

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161343

But is having only 512 Mb of memory that much of a setback compared to all the 1gig's?
At the beginning I was reluctant from the 400W power supply requirement...
512mb of faster memory performs better than 1gb of slower memory on a lower power card. I'd get the 5550 with GDDR5 unless you are also upgrading PSU. It is win. It reminds me of my old 4670, but faster, less power draw, dx11, HDCP ready, ect ect. Read the review on TPU.
Edited by damric - 2/6/11 at 2:48pm
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He can't run the 180W 9800GT on a 300W OEM PSU. And why would someone want a bronze age GT 9800 anyway? A 5670 or 5750 would be much better than that.
Dude, it's the ECO/Green edition. It only draws power from the PCI-e slot. 5750s require PCI-e power connectors and the 5670 is slightly slower than the 9800GT while only being $6 cheaper. Not worth it, bro.

The 5550 is junk for gaming and barely an upgrade over your 8500GT.
Edited by Primus - 2/6/11 at 2:53pm
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