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Superbowl is for n00bs.

I picked up a TA890FXE yesterday, to go with my Athlon II.

From what i understand about AMD overclocking,

-HT should always be at or near 2000. My question is, is it like QPI where if you go too low, it will cause instability?

-NB clock can go as high as is stable. Not sure about voltages here though.

-nb adjustment on this board is wierd, it just says the speed as if the reference clock was 200. So even if my reference clock is 250, it still says 2000 when infact, it is running much higher. I am assuming that default is a 10 multi (200x10= 2000), so when it says 1800MHz, that would be a 18x multi?


Anything else i should know?

Oh, and i can't find CnQ, I found C1E, but no CnQ
Edited by reflex99 - 2/6/11 at 12:19pm
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HT is the link between the CPU and the South Bridge, which controls graphics. Having it low would net lower fps.

Default NB multi is 10, and if it was 1800MHz, then it is 9.
As for the max safe voltage (I know you'll be freezing it) is 1.3v, but I think it'd be safe to go up to ~1.4-1.45v. But keep CPU-NBVID at 1.35v always.
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broadcast?
1. I'm not that good lol

2. even if i was, I probably wouldn't becuase you would make fun of me. (I am 16, under 18 = instant crap from the internet).


One day maybe, but not today.
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HT is the link between the CPU and the South Bridge, which controls graphics. Having it low would net lower fps.

Default NB multi is 10, and if it was 1800MHz, then it is 9.
As for the max safe voltage (I know you'll be freezing it) is 1.3v, but I think it'd be safe to go up to ~1.4-1.45v. But keep CPU-NBVID at 1.35v always.
HT link's between the CPU and the North bridge.

Motherboard NB voltage probably wont make a huge difference but try upto around 1.3v, that's what I run on stock NB cooling.

CPU NB voltage is stock at 1.2v and I've run up to around 1.55v without issue.

Use whatever voltage between 1.2 and 1.55 to get the highest clocks.

On single stage phase cooling I've been running well over 3.2GHz on the CPU NB with 1.5v, I'm held back by the lack of unlocked multiplier's else I'd push it higher.

You should be able to run 4GHz or higher depending if your doing LN2 or Dice.

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1. I'm not that good lol

2. even if i was, I probably wouldn't becuase you would make fun of me. (I am 16, under 18 = instant crap from the internet).


One day maybe, but not today.
1. We all to start off somewhere.
2. Perhaps make it Private? Getting advice while benching may be useful.
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Originally Posted by reflex99 View Post
Superbowl is for n00bs.

I picked up a TA890FXE yesterday, to go with my Athlon II.

From what i understand about AMD overclocking,

-HT should always be at or near 2000. My question is, is it like QPI where if you go too low, it will cause instability?

-NB clock can go as high as is stable. Not sure about voltages here though.

-nb adjustment on this board is wierd, it just says the speed as if the reference clock was 200. So even if my reference clock is 250, it still says 2000 when infact, it is running much higher. I am assuming that default is a 10 multi (200x10= 2000), so when it says 1800MHz, that would be a 18x multi?


Anything else i should know?

Oh, and i can't find CnQ, I found C1E, but no CnQ
Okay, to answer your questions.....
  1. HT should be between 1800-2100 after your overclock. Mine is at 2200 personally, but I would NEVER pass 2100 if I could avoid it. My 7x HT multi is broken, and 6x is too low.
  2. NB as high as stable, yes. Get your CPU clock stable first, THEN find the highest the NB goes. Then find a good mix between the two. Use CPU-NB voltage to adjust voltage for this. Up to 1.45v is safe. Up to 1.55v is safe on the vcore.
  3. That's pretty normal for the NB adjustments. 2000 = 10x, 1800 = 9x, and so on, and so forth. Your HT Link may or may not be similar. Just pretend that you're at 200Mhz reference clock when you're adjusting those options (so you get the right multiplier). So 250 ref. clock with 2000NB, that's 200 x 10 = 2000. So your NB would be 10x. So 250 x 10 = 2500MHz NB.
  4. Yes, there's plenty more you should know .
  5. Cool N Quiet is in there somewhere. Could be in your overclocking page, could be under "Advanced", could be under your power settings page.

More you should know:
Keep your HT / NB / RAM as close to stock as possible. Up your vcore to 1.55v (assuming temps stay under 55*C). Get your CPU as high as possible. Once you pass it stable as high as possible, knock the vcore down a notch at a time until it doesn't pass anymore. Record your progress. If temps are REALLY good, you can go up to 1.60v.

Once you've found your highest CPU speed, drop your CPU multiplier down to like 10x or 9x. Again, keeping everything else close to stock (after the overclock). Now, find out how high your MOTHERBOARD will go stable. Record your progress.

Now onto the NB. Same process, keep everything else close to stock, adjust CPU-NB voltage (up to 1.45v), and find out how high your NB will go stable.

RAM, same as above. You will need to adjust CPU-NB voltage AND your vDIMM for this one.

Finally, find yourself a nice mixed setting between all of the above. Get your NB as near its highest stable first. Then get your CPU multiplier knocked up to get the CPU up to speed. Then get your RAM as high as you can get it to run stable with the same settings. Tighten timings / loosen as necessary. Higher FSB will be better usually, but not at the expense of NB speed.
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good luck man.... and have fun.

side note.... the heading caught my eye since it said Gappo Bait...
    
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I lol'd at the "keep it under 55c part".

+rep for all the advice


BTW: if i were to bother with streaming it, would anyone watch my boringness?
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I can't get anything higher than 285 ref clock to boot post.

suggestions?
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