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No. That was in CRT era. Now 120hz makes everything more smooth.
Well low FPS is kinda stressful on your eyes, so 120hz allowing 120FPS can help in that regard.

PS: Yes, 60FPS is stressful on my eyes.
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post #42 of 49
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Well low FPS is kinda stressful on your eyes, so 120hz allowing 120FPS can help in that regard.

PS: Yes, 60FPS is stressful on my eyes.
No, its not. Movies aren't stressful for your eyes, neither are games at 60fps. You like them more at 120fps (and so do I) but they are not more stressful.

Like I said, that was CRT-era, in which using something above 85hz was mandatory in order not to have a headache every time you used the computer for longer than an hour.
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No, its not. Movies aren't stressful for your eyes, neither are games at 60fps. You like them more at 120fps (and so do I) but they are not more stressful.

Like I said, that was CRT-era, in which using something above 85hz was mandatory in order not to have a headache every time you used the computer for longer than an hour.
Uhh.. Movies hurt my eyes because the framerate is so slow.. (Movement choppy)

Some don't though
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Uhh.. Movies hurt my eyes because the framerate is so slow.. (Movement choppy)

Some don't though
All movies generally play at the same FPS, so how do only some hurt your eyes? If something is hurting your eyes, it isn't the movie's low FPS.
 
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All movies generally play at the same FPS, so how do only some hurt your eyes? If something is hurting your eyes, it isn't the movie's low FPS.
Some movies have less motion blur though.

The ones with a lot of motion blur are easier on the eyes.
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120 REAL hz on a TV? I just don't see the reasoning behind: there is nothing that can input 120hz to a tv except a computer. And It doesn't make any sense to launch a product solely for pc.

Ah! Don't mix things up 120hz != less ghosting. Ghosting is determined by the speed of the panel, not the frequency itself. Yeah, they use the fastest panels for 120hz (because otherwise your eyes would bleed in 3d mode) but its not directly related.
The above tbh. Most TV broadcasters when broadcasting HD content is either at 720p or 1080i as 1080p is usally too expensive due to bandwidth. 720p is actually preferable for fast paced things such as sports as progressive scanning produces less motion artifacts and thus in say a ball sport, the ball 'travels smoother'. Also with current standards (in North America, ATSC) only broadcast at a maximum of 60Hz. The other standards, DVB, is a max of 60Hz as well.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATSC_(standards)#Video

So either the OP is

A) Falling for the placebo effect
B) Is 'Wow'ed by the inaccurate oversaturated colours of the 120Hz TV
C) Both

As with computer monitors, input lag is much more important than the Hz or response rate.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/fea...tered?page=2,2
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Some movies have less motion blur though.

The ones with a lot of motion blur are easier on the eyes.
You basically just contradicted what you said in your previous post. Motion blur doesn't change FPS or even effect it. Motion blur is something to give you a false sense of 'smooth motion'.
 
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post #48 of 49
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You basically just contradicted what you said in your previous post. Motion blur doesn't change FPS or even effect it. Motion blur is something to give you a false sense of 'smooth motion'.
Excuse my poor wording


The motion in movies is not smooth most of the time. Some movies have enough motion blur to make it tolerable. The unsmooth motion in most movies makes my eyes hurt. Although low brightness and smaller screens help me tolerate this better.
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If you had looked at my signature you would have seen that I've got the Alienware OptX AW2310 monitor (a true 120hz PC monitor) which isn't the same as a TV. I've checked with other people as well and they seem to agree that it makes very little difference, maybe it is more noticeable in faster paced FPS games but it's really not as amazing as a lot of people are pretending.
Seriously man, I've no clue what's going on on your screen but 60hz is literally unbearable for me after using the 120hz mode. Not just FPS games (yeah I play Quakelive, CS:S etc, too) but simly going back to the jerky movememnt of the mouse cursor and browsing the web in 60hz is somewhat annoying.
(havent watched movies on it yet)

tl;dr
60hz= jerky/chop-ish
120hz= fluid
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