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Which of these two itx mobos would you choose?

post #1 of 9
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I have a laptop with a bad motherboard and it has a 1.73ghz Core 2 Duo and 2GB of ram, for reference the MSI takes desktop ram and the Asus takes mobile.. but I have DDR2 laying around so that doesn't matter.

MSI Fuzzy 945GME1


Price: $35

Pros:
Two Lan/Ethernet ports
DVI

Cons:
No pci-e
No chipset heatsink included


Asus MOCA-AR/HP Calcite


Price: $29

Pros:
PCI-E port
S-Video, Composite out
Firewire

Cons:
Proprietary 24pin PSU port (easy to get around, but still a con)
Doesn't come with backplate
Will not work with an Ati GPU, this could be a con but you gotta consider that the MSI doesn't even have a PCI-e port.
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post #2 of 9
The Asus, and that is a Pico-PSU motherboard plug IIRC.
Why does it matter if it cant use ATI?
Just use an nVidia...
    
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post #3 of 9
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It doesn't really matter that it can't use an Ati card, I was simply stating it as a con and wanted to hear everyones opinion with everything "on the table"

My case is just a little bit taller than a DVD drive anyway so I would need a ribbon cable to place a gpu on it's side anyway.

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post #4 of 9
Welcome.
I dare you to buy a 580 and see if it will run.
    
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post #5 of 9
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I don't have that kind of money.. Plus I only have a 120w Pico PSU that i'm going to use.
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post #6 of 9
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Any other last opinions?
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post #7 of 9
well a ribbon cable is out of the question they have a ton of problems with PCi-E ribbon risers, you need a shielded one and they are hard to come by. Benchers us them and there was a lot of talk about crappy ones and how they caused problems. I would get the MSI so you can use your normal PSU.
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post #8 of 9
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Thanks

:/

Hard to decide. Both motherboards only have GMA950 graphics..
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post #9 of 9
ASUS. PCIe slot is a plus.

PicoATX supply isn't much of a deal if you use a low power card such as the GT230. Outputs a decent amount of power without needing any aux connector.

It's based off the 9600GT core, so it's still kickin' some asses out there.
   
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