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Originally Posted by Bluescreen_Of_Death View Post
Think about it. You assault me, and I decide to press charges. I know that you have a full time job, and can't leave the state to attend court without losing your job, so I sue you in a court a few borders away from where you live to increase the grief you suffer [and to find a more sympathetic judge].

I'm no law student, but I'm pretty sure that's not legal, so why is sony getting away with it?

Oh, thats right. Because they're a multi-million dollar company and GeoHot is just one person.
It is legal. You can be taken to court in ANY states at all that you conducted business in; business in this case being distributing tools to bypass PS3 software encryption. If Sony can prove that any single one person downloaded his tools within a certain state, Geo can be taken to court in that state.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 2/13/11 at 7:33pm
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Obvious fanboy troll is obvious. If you aren't going to contribute anything logical or unbiased, don't bother posting. Literally, you have the two consoles mixed up. The number of epic exclusives on the PS3 completely demolishes the number on the 360. Outside of exclusives, they are all exactly the same. So congrats for making yourself out as being an ignorant fool.
Obvious fanboy troll is obvious?

I have a PS3, I have an Xbox 360, I have a gaming PC, I'm probably less biased than you because of that, the PS3 kills the 360 as a media center but in terms of games its lacking, Forza 3 is funner than GT5, Killzone was always absolute crap compared to Halo IMO (Not that being better than Halo is saying much either), the only really good exclusive is LBP.

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Too bad it consisted of obvious biased fanboy opinions, bad analogies, and disregard of proper copyright protection.

They aren't going to sue people watching the crack video. People are blowing this out of proportion.

I wished all of these PS3 crack threads could be merged, this is like fighting a war on multiple fronts. It appears StealthPyro and XNine, with a random few stragglers, are the few with any common sense.
They were trying to sue them, Youtube said no and now they're not.

And yes, I'm a fanboy despite owning a PS3, want proof I own a PS3 and an Xbox? Both of which are connected up to my Sony Bravia TV? I can take a picture if you really want.

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Hypocrisy at its best, considering this guy is the one that "ignored" me. Hah. It is really sad when someone resorts to ignoring someone when they lose an argument.
Losing an argument? He's been showing facts mostly and...well, winning.
    
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Losing an argument? He's been showing facts mostly and...well, winning.
If he wants to call ad hominems an 'argument' then yeah, he wins. I try to keep my discussions free of slander or personal attacks.

If I remember correctly, I put him on my ignore list in the first place because he couldn't go one post without attacking.
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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post
It is legal. You can be taken to court in ANY states at all that you conducted business in; business in this case being distributing tools to bypass PS3 software encryption. If Sony can prove that any single one person downloaded his tools within a certain state, Geo can be taken to court in that state.
Sorry for the double post, but is there a link you could post as a reference? I was under the impression that sony persuing in california was questionable, and id just like to read up on the subject a little.
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Copyright violations are a violation of federal law, meaning you can be taken to court in any state where your violation made an effect. Edit: Forgot to add that in federal court, you may sue anyone regardless of what state they live in or where they performed the violation. It makes it even easier if you "conducted business" to someone within that state, such as someone downloading Geo's tools.

http://www.legalgrind.com/index.php?...ontent&cid=146

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Federal jurisdiction

Subject matter: In general, federal courts deal with federal matters, as set out in the Constitution and later federal laws. These are called federal questions: Federal questions found in the Constitution include:

patents and trademarks and copyright
Trying to find another post I made about this but it's hard to find now.

There we go, found it. Read below "Other Ways to Get Personal Jurisdiction." Basically, so long as Sony can prove that Geo "conducted business" with someone within a state, the court can obtain jurisdiction to accuse Geo in that state.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...ant-29560.html
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Copyright violations are a violation of federal law, meaning you can be taken to court in any state where your violation made an effect. Edit: Forgot to add that in federal court, you may sue anyone regardless of what state they live in or where they performed the violation. It makes it even easier if you "conducted business" to someone within that state, such as someone downloading Geo's tools.

http://www.legalgrind.com/index.php?...ontent&cid=146



Trying to find another post I made about this but it's hard to find now.

There we go, found it. Read below "Other Ways to Get Personal Jurisdiction." Basically, so long as Sony can prove that Geo "conducted business" with someone within a state, the court can obtain jurisdiction to accuse Geo in that state.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...ant-29560.html
That makes sense. It also explains why sony is trying to get IP addresses from youtube and other places.

Thanks.
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That makes sense. It also explains why sony is trying to get IP addresses from youtube and other places.

Thanks.
(What I assume) the reason Sony is trying to acquire some IP addresses is simply to gather data on which areas are taking the most advantage of the new jailbreak, then maybe they have a broader audience to go after.
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Sadly this guy and many others and the list keeps growing will be taken to court
thrown in jail and hope that sony can use the court system to make some money back from poor sales
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