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Hide yo wife hide yo kids, and hide yo husbands cuz they suin' everybody round here


Had to do it LoL
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Right, so it'd be a better idea to just sit back and do nothing right? I hope all of you saying "this is why i wont get a sony product" or "i hate sony now" are just trolling because that's just silly. Sure, you may "own" the PS3 but nowhere does it say you can go and download games for free. Chances are, whatever protection scheme the ps3 uses is what they were banking on in the future and they don't want their later products to fall under the same hacks. And let's be honest. Who is honestly jailbreaking just to play super mario or use stupid homebrew? Everyone is doing it to play PS3 games for free, and sony clearly isn't having any of that anymore.

I bet the same people bashing sony now are the same ones who bashed microsoft when they started issuing xbox bans.
Nobody is saying we should have the right to pirate ps3 games. We are simply standing up for our rights as the owner of a product.

GeoHots hack allows for potential piracy, yes. But does that mean that we should all be persued for the potential ramifications of our actions rather than what we actually do?

Owning a gun gives you the ability to kill another human. But you aren't locked up until you actually kill someone.
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If you back-engineered their ECU firmware make a hack that removed the speed limiter, and then released it to the public, I'm pretty sure they would sue you.
There is legal precedent that says the DMCA does not cover IP that restricts the abilities of a product.

Sorry.
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Bad example, removing the speed limiter does not impede future profits from the manufacturer.


A better example may be cracking the ECU and rolling back the mileage to stay in warranty. That in itself doesn't take money from the manufacturer (hacking), the dishonesty of the user taking the car to the dealership for repairs knowing the car is out of warranty does(downloading games).
Exactly. The person trying to be dishonest should be held accountable, not the person who found out that you could modify the odometer.

it scares me that so many people aren't up in arms about this, but rather welcoming the shaft.
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Looks like nobody here really understands what is going on. It makes sense for Sony to track these guys down. The more developers believe that the PS3 is secure as possible from piracy, the more they will be drawn to develop games for it.
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better watch yourself, at this rate sony might add you to the lawsuit as well
made me lolz hardcore
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meh, could see this coming a mile away.. Not really concerned at all. Don't plan on hacking mine so no worries here.
 
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it scares me that so many people aren't up in arms about this, but rather welcoming the shaft.

Maybe you missed my post up above but the issue at hand isn't the legality of jailbreaking but the use of proprietary code in the exploits.
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Yeah and maybe major car company's should sue us for modifying our own cars.
My car is capable of doing 155MPH. 170MPH with limiter disabled. I get in trouble if I do that. But it's my car. I should be able to do anything I want with it.

My point is that everybody has known tampering with the system would cause trouble. Don't act surprised when troubles comes knocking.

I take no stance on right or wrong in the matter.
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Originally Posted by Deagle50ae View Post
It's just Sony protecting it's product.
running a hacked system has been a no-no for years and everybody knows it.
Quit Complaining.
I'm going to assume you're a troll, but I'll reply regardless.

Who on earth is sony to tell me what I should do with my product? I paid money for it, it is mine. Sony owns no part of my system and if I want to mod it I will.
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I'm going to assume you're a troll, but I'll reply regardless.

Who on earth is sony to tell me what I should do with my product? I paid money for it, it is mine. Sony owns no part of my system and if I want to mod it I will.
Why assume somebody is a troll if they disagree with you?
Very childish.
That's just like Sony saying hackers = pirates.
Sure feels nice to put people in your own labeled boxes. Makes things easier.
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Originally Posted by IEATFISH View Post
Maybe you missed my post up above but the issue at hand isn't the legality of jailbreaking but the use of proprietary code in the exploits.
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Originally Posted by Bluescreen_Of_Death View Post
There is legal precedent that says the DMCA does not cover IP that restricts the abilities of a product.
In the apple jailbreaking case, it was ruled that copyrighted software that restricted the abilities of a device a consumer pays for isn't covered by the DMCA. So as to how sony is getting away with all this nonsense is a mystery to me. But then again, I assume that the legal system we live in should make sense.
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