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Originally Posted by kppanic View Post
I am beginning to seriously ponder that Playstation 4 is going to be a fail...
Maybe they were stupid enough to use the same security on the ps4, now that it has been cracked they are trying to clean it up before the ps4 releases and people crack their systems on release day. Only thing that would come to mind, why else would they waste money on such a small amount of the community.

Purely speculation of course.
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Yeah and maybe major car company's should sue us for modifying our own cars.
Well... that makes absolutely no sense.

With a car, any major modification is potentially voiding a mfg warranty with 10's of thousands of dollars.

How does that relate to modifying a ps3?
    
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Translation: We at Sony would like less marketshare.
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I just hacked my PS3 and now it plays Xbox 360 games too!!!! Whatcha gonna do about it Sony?! Screw you!
Ok guys try not to laugh at me to much, but is this really possible. I would think not considering the hardware/software differences? That and the difference in the disc drives.

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Ok guys try not to laugh at me to much, but is this really possible. I would think not considering the hardware/software differences? That and the difference in the disc drives.

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Ok guys try not to laugh at me to much, but is this really possible. I would think not considering the hardware/software differences? That and the difference in the disc drives.

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A resounding no. And no, I did not laugh... too much... smile.gif
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With a car, any major modification is potentially voiding a mfg warranty with 10's of thousands of dollars.

How does that relate to modifying a ps3?
It's the same thing. No car manufacturer will sue you if you mod their car. Sure, if you get into some crazy tuning, or plunk some crate motor in, don't expect warranty coverage - but also, don't expect the car company to be suing you either. If modifications were "illegal", the whole speed industry would have been dust long, long ago - like no Fronty Fords, deuce coupes, no blowers, no rodding, no Edelbrock, no B&M - hey, not even tires that are decent - all would be illegal, and you'd be stuck with the factory spec'd Uniroyals.

With software - I don't see MS suing anyone for changing the theme of the desktop, or dual booting thei system, or patching it with "unapproved" drivers, and so on. So why should Sony even have a second in court with this garbage?

Again, if this hacker was into reverse engineering, then cranking out a product that directly competed with Sony, like his own console of his own design - that is a different matter. But this is nothing more than customing a system. Sony should have to pay a hefty fine for this trivial, fradulent lawsuit. Maybe the US really has to think about putting "loser pays" into their court system, because then, actions like this would only happen if there was a clear case, not just some harassment of a private citizen doing their own thing.

Sad thing is the Big Brother bogeyman is attempting to involve the operators of various, hobby oriented web sites. This raises real questions - like really, if this case "succeeds" - goodbye Overclock.net, because much of what is discussed here would be illegal, because much of it is all about various modifications. Overclocking - illegal because Intel told you what the GHz is. Putting in your own video card - illegal because the motherboard already has some integrated video that you must use, and using an additional card is "circumventing" their design. Case mods - illegal because the case has been modified, and that means lawyers must be involved.

Sony is silly, and if they aren't selling PS3's in the quantity they want, perhaps they should make them suck less.
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It's the same thing. No car manufacturer will sue you if you mod their car. Sure, if you get into some crazy tuning, or plunk some crate motor in, don't expect warranty coverage - but also, don't expect the car company to be suing you either. If modifications were "illegal", the whole speed industry would have been dust long, long ago - like no Fronty Fords, deuce coupes, no blowers, no rodding, no Edelbrock, no B&M - hey, not even tires that are decent - all would be illegal, and you'd be stuck with the factory spec'd Uniroyals.
But once you buy a car, that is it. You don't continue to buy Ford software afterwards. Cars are made to be sold at a profit whereas consoles, to make them mainstream luxury, have to be sold at a loss leading price. It is games licensing etc... that makes up the profit and that is why it has to be protected.

So, the analogy isn't the same. If Sony/Microsoft made their profit on each console, then I would have much less sympathy, but then each console would have cost a lot, lot more to buy.
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http://www.scei.co.jp/ps3-eula/ps3_eula_en.html

This is the EULA for the PS3, if you are using your PS3 right now you signed this. As for this whole issue I could care less, the linux thing was garbage, I ran it for like 2 days, it was so slow I don't know why anyone would've bothered with it. They are not being sued because of the DMCA, they are being sued because they violated the EULA.



2. RESTRICTIONS

You may not lease, rent, sublicense, publish, modify, adapt, or translate any portion of the System Software. To the fullest extent permitted by law, you may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble any portion of the System Software, or create any derivative works, or otherwise attempt to create System Software source code from its object code. You may not (i) use any unauthorized, illegal, counterfeit, or modified hardware or software in connection with the System Software, including use of tools to bypass, disable, or circumvent any encryption, security, or authentication mechanism for the PS3™ system; (ii) violate any laws, regulations or statutes, or rights of SCE, its affiliated companies, or third parties in connection with your access to or use of the System Software, including the access, use, or distribution of any software or hardware that you know or should have known to be infringing or pirated; (iii) use any hardware or software to cause the System Software to accept or use unauthorized, illegal, or pirated software or hardware; (iv) obtain the System Software in any manner other than through SCE's authorized distribution methods; or (v) exploit the System Software in any manner other than to use it in your PS3™ system in accordance with the accompanying documentation and with authorized software or hardware, including use of the System Software to design, develop, update, or distribute unauthorized software or hardware for use in connection with the PS3™ system for any reason. Without limiting the scope of SCE's remedies, any violation of these restrictions will void the PS3™ system's warranty and affect your ability to obtain warranty services and repair services from SCE or its affiliated companies.
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Why does sony care so much about piracy on the PS3? People who would actually pirate games on their PS3 must be like 2 percent. Hardly seems worth all the trouble.
    
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