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I recently decided to get rid of my old RAM because I think it is slowing my PC down too much. My old RAM is DDR2 rated at 667 with CL5 I think but it is currently running on "Auto" at 400 because on the default setting it causes errors. I have a 965BE running at 3,8GHz and a Radeon HD 4850 running currently on stock so I suppose the RAM is the component that is bottlenecking my performance. While gaming my FPS is usually lower than someone else's with a "decent" but a bit older rig. I also use my pc for code compiling and some video editing.

So the first question is, am I correct about the fact that the RAM is the first candidate for getting my performance up? If yes, am I insane when I think I should upgrade to a DDR3 mobo also while I'm at it? (so I wouldn't have to stick with DDR2's anymore) There is also the option to wait for an AM3+ board but I am not so sure about that.

Which brings me to the main question, which mobo should I choose? My budget for the mobo+ram setup (with at least 4GB of ram, preferably maybe 6 or even 8 GB) is about 250 EUR or ~$330 .
(Probably a bit less since I live in Finland so the components are usually a bit more expensive here because of the shipping cost or something)

I was thinking about this one:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...0GX%20Extreme3
But I also looked at some Gigabyte, MSI and Asus boards and I am currently clueless about which one would be the best :/

About the ram I am still not quite sure what kind of RAM is better, 1600 with CL9 or 1333 with lower latencies.
The rest of my rig is on the signature and some info also in this screenie.

This post is maybe a bit messy but I hope someone can get something out of it and give me some suggestions.
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There is no chart that covers the different IC, there is no direct CAS per Speed correlation with different IC, and so to answer your question would "MASK" the truth of CAS vs Speed. In principle ONLY "As Speed increases the CAS {latency} increases {slower}: Example 1333 8-8-8-24 -> 1600 9-9-9-24."


As for your mobo, sorry mate no AMD knowledge =(
    
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I think I am going to go with the mobo I mentioned, and get a pair of Kingston HyperX 2x2GB 1600MHz CL9 for a cheap-ish price. That way I can save a bit for a new GPU. I almost have a full computer that could be built from my old parts so if I build it in my old case and manage to sell it to my some of my relatives I might be able to get an HD 6950.
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im not sure what prices are like where you are, but in the UK the asus crosshair 3 is goign pretty cheap. i would highly recommend it, stupidly overclockable as well
     
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sircles View Post
im not sure what prices are like where you are, but in the UK the asus crosshair 3 is goign pretty cheap. i would highly recommend it, stupidly overclockable as well
It seems to be 25€ more that the asrock board I linked. Seems to have sick overclocking performance, from what I understand. It's lacking USB 3 though.

On the other hand, I was also looking at this one:
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=eCWbkolMf0DOW0IV (Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3)
I suppose that could be an option too.
Edited by Sentri - 2/8/11 at 12:06pm
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Ok now I have narrowed it down to these two options:
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=eCWbkolMf0DOW0IV (ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3)
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...0GX%20Extreme3 (ASRock 890GX Extreme3)
They are basically identical, so I have problems choosing. The ASRock board has three PCI-E ports, and it's a little bit cheaper. I've heard comments about ASUS boards being better quality so I am not exactly sure. Also the ASUS uses a lower PCI-E port for single GPU so that would make it easier to fit the graphics card to my case.
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The Asrock is only better for CFX setups and since you are going a single card the ASUS is a no brainer, USB3 and also the better OC options.
Also to make the best out of CFX you really need to go an 890FX not GX
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Okay, thanks for clearing that up. I am quite sure I won't be using multiple cards so I suppose I'll go with the ASUS.
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