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I have absolutely no security on my router. Open wifi. I'm not worried though. I look and see that everybody has there own network. Besides, nobody would want to steal my super slow internet. I think I would have security, but my router is like six years old.
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Originally Posted by tryceo View Post
What wireless adapters do you guys have so that you can use your nerighbors wireless? I can only get my own network, and it is about 5 feet away.
If you can only get your network from about 5 feet away that is pretty poor by any standards. Try going into your router configuration and changing your broadcast signal strength to 100%. The signal strength may be turned down for some reason.

As for getting wireless from far distances, you may just simply have an older card. There are plenty of wireless N client cards on the market that just plug into usb. If you want really good signal reception, try using the Alfa AWUS036H. It goes to 1000 mW and 30dbm, which is about twice the average power in most usb cards or laptops from Best Buy or whatever. The Alfa is on average $10 more than the usb cards, and works with just about any operating system (various flavours of Linux, Mac, Windows, BSD...). The Alfa is also packet-injection capable, should you need it to do any pentesting or security auditing.

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Originally Posted by dlee7283
I keep my connection open as well. I use the id "FreeforNow" to show that its free unless abused
(It hasn't yet in over a year)
Because of this a neighbor of mine created an unsecured guest access point so he shares some of his bandwidth now as well.

I just get annoyed by Mac-ish like people who think its cool to be "WPA" and lock up their access. They read amateur articles on these blog websites written by tech noobs who think they know something about "hackers".

"I want my network secure"
Well I want to smack these people in the face because they want to be hipster about it when all they do is use facebook,youtube,blogger. Well these people get a brute force attack by me using a custom linux client
Okay, stop right there. You get annoyed by the people that lock up their access point when all they use is basic social media sites? That's the technical equivalent of getting mad at someone for locking their house with nothing to hide, no drugs etc. Sure you could pick the lock, but it puts people off going into your house. And locks are damn hard to pick anyways. People just want privacy, and maybe they don't have a lot of bandwidth. Besides, even with simple online services there is PLENTY of stuff a cracker can do to a person. Online banking? Social media sites? E-mail? Yeah, you wouldn't want someone having unauthorized access to that, would you? Your "brute force attack" with a custom Linux client on WPA could take years, or potentially decades, even with access to supercomputing like hardware. By then I could have changed the key, or access points completely!

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If you have unlimited bandwidth and aren't working for the government in dealing with sensitive files then I see no reason why not to share some bandwidth,especially in America where ISP's are not being fair with their rates compared to other parts of the world.
Yes, if they are on unlimited bandwidth with a guest AP on a separate subnet, then go ahead, let them use your bandwidth. But don't come crying to me when you have moochers trying to shove gigabytes of torrents through your modem/router.
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The bottom line is this: someone on your network could potentially steal your identity, passwords, accounts, information, corporate information for your job (potentially), and use all the information to:

-Route illegal services through your home access point.
-Use that corporate information to get into your corporation you may work for's network.
-Commit internet-based and other crimes in your name.
-Social engineer your family or co-workers to commit more crime.

So, secure your wireless access point. It does not take government-level technical knowledge to do stuff like I described. A somewhat smart skiddie could probably do it. All this community stuff about sharing your connection is great, but consider the risks: it's the same thing as locking your door. If you lock your door to prevent unlawful intruders, please, for your own sake, do it to your wireless access point.

Edit: I see a bunch of you guys just "don't care" about securing your router. Your risk. It doesn't matter if your connection is slow, people can still steal your information.

Scott
Edited by ArchLinuxFTW - 2/7/11 at 6:51pm
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Haha. I wonder if wpa2 works better. It's what I use.



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WPA2>WEP by a thousand times. Use wpa2. WEP was cracked almost 10 years ago, and there are even programs that automate WEP cracking. Skiddie galore.
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I live in the sticks, so no neighbors. I do use WPA2 and MAC address filtering though, just because I can.

At school, there are 5 or 6 networks available in the classroom and the shop. Students are supposed to use one of them, and we're supposed to use our student ID info to log in. I tried it, and it's always saturated so bad it runs like dialup. However, 3 of the other networks are unsecured and much less saturated
 
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post #105 of 118
A couple weeks ago a guy brought a computer into the shop I work at because his internet stopped working. We immediately connected to the office wifi and it worked perfectly. When asked what router he had, he didn't have one.

We said he was mooching off his neighbors and they probably figured it out and locked him out. He even asked us if we could get him into it!

Some people...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArchLinuxFTW View Post
Your "brute force attack" with a custom Linux client on WPA could take years, or potentially decades, even with access to supercomputing like hardware. By then I could have changed the key, or access points completely!
WEP all day baby
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WEP all day baby
Oh. . Bruteforcing WEP doesn't take a custom linux client anyways. Aircrack-ng + backtrack 4 and an injection-capable card is all one needs. Or are you using an automated WEP cracking program?
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I had an open connection in my old neighborhood 3 years ago. Used that for like 3 years, before getting FIOS. Back then we couldn't afford internet so I'm very thankful to whoever left their AP open those 3 years
     
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I have a virtual open network that redirects all HTTP requests to various porn sites and shock sites (think Meatspin, Lemonparty, etc)
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I have a virtual open network that redirects all HTTP requests to various porn sites and shock sites (think Meatspin, Lemonparty, etc)
My hero.

If you're gonna go security through obscurity, that's the way to do it.
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