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Once at a cafe I scanned for nearby open networks on my phone, and found one cleverly called "ZyXeL". Well, as I have a P-HW660-D1, I tried 192.168.1.1, and found out that he hadn't even changed the default password. I navigated into client list and saw about 8 users on the slow 512k line. Two iPhones, Two N900s (mine included), some others and someone named "firstname-lastname", which was probably the owner. Ouch.

I rather use my mobile broadband (512K ;<) than any open network, unless I have to download a larger file on the go. I'm just a bit paranoid, but these days I guess it's healthy.
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post #52 of 118
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Originally Posted by Setzer View Post
This, although I bet some people just don't know how to do it.
I generally make it a point to know how something I buy is to be used properly. Most of these wireless networks that get hijacked are from people that...

A. Relied on an ISP guy to setup the router, who f-ed it up by not putting a password on the wifi.

B. Are a jackhole who goes and buys a router and simply plugs it in.
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My connection is unlimited, as far as I know (I've hit ~500GB in a month without any charges), and if the freeloaders get annoying, I remove them.

I have no reason to complain to my ISP, if they annoy me or give me crap, I'll switch to a different one.

I'm not legally responsible for anything I don't do. There is no law that says I have to secure my connections, or monitor what others are doing on it. The ISP can disconnect me if the connection is used for something they don't approve of, but there won't be any legal repercussions without much more proof than the ISP is capable of giving anyone.
Prove the computer isn't yours. As far as the ISP is concerned, as long as a computer is within your network, it belongs to you, and you take responsibility for anything which occurs on it.
     
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Prove the computer isn't yours. As far as the ISP is concerned, as long as a computer is within your network, it belongs to you, and you take responsibility for anything which occurs on it.
Exactly this, wonder what will happen if someone uses your network to search for the real nasty stuff that floats on the net? Fortunately my neighbours are not tech-savvy enough to attempt hacking my WPA-PSK2 secured wlan. And even if they did manage, i still use look@lan to see if there are no unauthorised connections to my network.
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What happens if that freeloader uses too much bandwidth? If you complain that someone hacked into your network, your ISP would simply tell you to lock it, and leave you with all the charges for going over, because since it is your network, you are responsible for everything that happens under it.
That is very true
an isp will only accept an excuse so many times until they do whatever they do; charge you for more for a commercial tier or drop your account altogether.

home wireless router networks should always have security mode wpa2 personal or better.
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I made this guide quite a while ago. Amazing how many people run unsecured default networks like dlink or linksys with default router passwords.
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I'm actually surprised at this number. I find it very difficult to find an unsecured network in my area these days. A few years back, I could just park my car anywhere in a neighborhood and find at least one unsecured network. These days though, every place I frequent is full of locked-down networks. I haven't seen an unsecured network in ages...
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Prove the computer isn't yours. As far as the ISP is concerned, as long as a computer is within your network, it belongs to you, and you take responsibility for anything which occurs on it.
The ISPs concerns are irrelevant. The ISP has no power over me. They cannot fine me, they cannot imprison me.

The burden of proof in the legal system of the nation I reside in is on the accuser/prosecution. If I am accused of a crime, I am innocent until proven guilty.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pir View Post
Exactly this, wonder what will happen if someone uses your network to search for the real nasty stuff that floats on the net? Fortunately my neighbours are not tech-savvy enough to attempt hacking my WPA-PSK2 secured wlan. And even if they did manage, i still use look@lan to see if there are no unauthorised connections to my network.
Again, innocent until proven guilty.

My ISP cannot charge me with a crime, they can only provide their records and/or cease to service me. Since I am not legally required to secure my connection, I cannot reasonably be held responsible for actions other than my own, even if they happen on my connection.

Just as you will not be held legally responsible for the actions of a person who steals your unlocked car, I will not be held legally responsible for the actions of one who steals my unlocked internet connection.

I refuse to be required to lock my doors. Everyone is responsible for their own actions, and no others.
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Cheap punks, internet isn't that expensive.
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I have often wondered about setting up a Wi Fi connection in the home but with all the wannabe hackers around I haven't dared to, it'd be stupid and only a matter of time before they hacked it and hijacked my internet. Lots of bored people around who have nothing better to do than make the lives of other a misery. Also it'd be free Internet and that's exactly what they want.
Pop open a wireless sniffer and see what other networks are nearby. If you see any open networks, WEP networks, or any that are the default configuration for the router, you are almost entirely likely to be safe so long as you set up a WPA2 network. As already suggested, you can add MAC filtering, which will stop most little script-abusing kids from getting in, as will disable broadcasting. But the most important thing is having a few neighbors that are fully willing to play the part of a nice big distraction.
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