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Hello everyone. In about 2½ months ago i made a thread about stuttering in games, cause of my gtx 580. Well, i recieved my card from RMA yesterday, and i reinstalled windows, to get rid of all drivers. BUT, it does not stutter anymore, no, it gives me a really low fps..


In crysis warhead on gamer settings, i recieve about 15-25 fps, and its at 1980x1080. I've turned on maximum performance in Nvidia controlpanel, and done all the things that had to be turned off. It still gives me a really bad fps. In world of warcraft it gives me 20 fps in Stormwind (the biggest city for the "Alliance" players). And someone in my guild said that he achieved 90 fps with everything on max like me, and with 16x aa and all that. He had a hd 5870 and a i7 920 @ 4ghz, which made me wonder, is it my core clock?

Can someone help me?
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Stock settings on your CPU is your bottleneck in both cases, especially WoW. It is still a bit lower than it should be.
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Stock settings on your CPU is your bottleneck in both cases, especially WoW. It is still a bit lower than it should be.

Can you explain what a bottleneck is, and how to remove it?
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Your i7 920 is running at a stock speed of 2.66GHz. At 3.5GHz and up you would start seeing the true potential of your GTX 580. Look at these reviews:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/05/19/real_world_gameplay_cpu_scaling/4

http://benchmarkextreme.com/Articles/CPU%20Bottleneck%20Analysis/P10.html

As you increase your clock speed your CPU can perform more operations/second, allowing the non-GPU dependent part of the game to run faster. It's especially important in WoW.

Edit: Here's a guide to overclock you processor:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/538439-guide-overclocking-core-i7-920-930-a.html

You can get 3.2GHz maybe on stock cooling, higher clock speeds require higher voltages require better cooling. If you are on a budget I suggest a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ and if money isn't an issue an Corsair H70 should do well to start off with.
Edited by KittensMewMew - 2/7/11 at 11:31am
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Your system's performance is limited to the slowest part of the system. When you are gaming and when there is a process going on with the CPU your GPU will be waiting for the CPU to finish limiting its performance.
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Overclock your CPU to at least 3.5Ghz and then you WILL see vast improvements. Your 580 is just itching to show you what it can do but the CPU won't let it.
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Can anyone tell me a good CPU Cooler that will cool my i7 to 3.6-4.0 ghz, i have a gigabyte ex58-ud4p mb
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Originally Posted by KittensMewMew;12297229 
Here's a guide to overclock you processor:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/538439-guide-overclocking-core-i7-920-930-a.html

You can get 3.2GHz maybe on stock cooling, higher clock speeds require higher voltages require better cooling. If you are on a budget I suggest a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ and if money isn't an issue an Corsair H70 should do well to start off with.

Here you go! Both should manage 3.6 and up, the H70 should take you to 3.8 and up. Get some good thermal paste at the same time, Arctic Silver 5 is OK, though there are better.
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Here you go! Both should manage 3.6 and up, the H70 should take you to 3.8 and up. Get some good thermal paste at the same time, Arctic Silver 5 is OK, though there are better.

I have 200$ i want to spend on it, show me the best, and i dont wann use thermal paste.

And does a water cooler have to use a constant supply of fresh water??
Edited by Toxication - 2/7/11 at 11:50am
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I have 200$ i want to spend on it, show me the best, and i dont wann use thermal paste.

And does a water cooler have to use a constant supply of fresh water??

Your case probably won't fit a custom water cooling loop, but if it will, a 240mm rad set is probably what you would want to go with, this thread has some good sets:

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/882408-official-xspc-rasa-750-rs-rx120.html

You could probably get the RX240.

Honestly, you will have a much easier time if you just go for the H70. The performance gains you will see by going to a custom loop are low for the amount of hassle- you WILL have to mod your case, unless it specifies that it can handle watercooling. For a 3-6 Celcius difference, it just isn't worth it unless you have a case to go with it.

And you always need thermal paste in between your CPU cooler/block and the CPU. Otherwise you get a thin layer of air, which is a much poorer conductor of heat than a paste specifically designed to transfer heat.

Custom water cooling loops should be flushed and have the water replaced every once and awhile, the water cooling subforum should have more on that. The H70 is prefilled with coolant that doesn't need to be changed.
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