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I can't imagine a 460 bottlenecking you at 1366 x 768. If anything it should be perfect for that res. A 470/560 would be overkill.
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I really don't think there is a bottleneck with my CPU.
You would be supprised, the athlon X4's are not really a strong processor, in my opinion it is a CPU bottleneck.

Besides, just to clarify, what problems are you having to make you think your 460 is bottlencking?
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You could try running a few games for some hours while monitoring your GPU usage. If its low, you probably need a new CPU, or maybe a new full HD monitor.
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I can't imagine a 460 bottlenecking you at 1366 x 768. If anything it should be perfect for that res. A 470/560 would be overkill.
I also forgot to add that I do play at 1080p, on my 38inch TV.

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What games are we talking about here where there's an issue? Because I'm certain there are games out there where that CPU could cause some bottlenecking, and others where it wouldn't.
I usually play games such as Black ops, ( having no FPS issues) Crysis, metro, need for speed hot persuit and Dirt 2 plus loads of other games, usually I find myself around the 28FPS area in crysis and metro, its ok in dirt but it can dip low sometimes.

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You could try running a few games for some hours while monitoring your GPU usage. If its low, you probably need a new CPU, or maybe a new full HD monitor.
I have been monitoring it through MSI afterburner, and its always on 100%
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I also forgot to add that I do play at 1080p, on my 38inch TV.
I usually play games such as Black ops, ( having no FPS issues) Crysis, metro, need for speed hot persuit and Dirt 2 plus loads of other games, usually I find myself around the 28FPS area in crysis and metro, its ok in dirt but it can dip low sometimes.
I have been monitoring it through GPu-z and MSI afterburner, and its always on 100%
Kinda an important information there. Well if this is the case, a new GPU might not be a bad idea
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I also forgot to add that I do play at 1080p, on my 38inch TV.
Ahh, then yes a 768 MB GTX 460 would definitely struggle a bit at that res. It has less memory and a smaller bus (192-bit) than the 1G models, so it's not really built for 1080p and up.
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I also forgot to add that I do play at 1080p, on my 38inch TV.



I usually play games such as Black ops, ( having no FPS issues) Crysis, metro, need for speed hot persuit and Dirt 2 plus loads of other games, usually I find myself around the 28FPS area in crysis and metro, its ok in dirt but it can dip low sometimes.



I have been monitoring it through GPu-z and MSI afterburner, and its always on 100%
Well, 1080p changes the equation here a LOT, so it's good you mentioned it.

Of the games mentioned, it's really only Crysis and Black Ops that are relatively CPU-dependent.

Metro and Crysis at 1080p, I'd guess running out of VRAM is the main problem here. Although depending on settings, 28fps is pretty normal for a card of the level of a 460 768MB.

At 1080p resolution on games like Metro and Crysis, the 470 would be a significant upgrade over a 460 768MB card due to a much superior memory subsystem (meaning both bandwidth and vram amount improvements). Dirt 2 in DX11 would probably also improve significantly, as the tessellation power of the 470 is noticeably higher.
    
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I decided to do a fast benchmark at max setting with metro, and this is the sort of performance I'm getting.



I'm just gonna go an ahead and jump on a MSI GeForce GTX 470 Twin Frozr II, so that will reduce the heat and sound issues a little, plus its on a day sale!
post #19 of 21
That level of Metro performance looks right for that card at those settings. VH w/4xMSAA is brutal in that game, even w/o the uber-fps-killer known as ADoF. Ditch the 4xMSAA and it should become more playable
    
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That level of Metro performance looks right for that card at those settings. VH w/4xMSAA is brutal in that game, even w/o the uber-fps-killer known as ADoF. Ditch the 4xMSAA and it should become more playable
Its actually only slightly better without AA
but cheers for the advise all, +rep to all who give advice
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